[ SECRET POST #5157 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5157 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[fscom]

02. https://i.imgur.com/OgKPQN8.png

[icecheetah]

I have only seen Black Swan, so I can't judge, but I remember hearing a lot of people say Black Swan was just a rip off of Perfect Blue? And I've never heard anyone say they thought Black Swan was better.
So I am a bit surprised to see this as a secret.
Though this is the first time I even heard about Black Swan in years.

[(Anonymous)]

Perfect Blue has rape in it that seems quite calculated for the titillation of anime fanboys. That alone was enough to put me off it for eternity.

[(Anonymous)]

This.
Can’t stand to see people (especially women) have this movie on their recommendations list and totally gloss over giving content warnings for the graphic and disturbingly shot rape scene in it.
Watched it once and that’s all I’ll ever remember it for.

[bur]

That's because no one is raped? It's an acting gig. One of the actors even apologizes to Mima for it. She's deliberately trying to obliterate any chance of getting type-cast because of her idol past. Honestly, the photo shoot is more disturbing.

[(Anonymous)]

I know that, due to the trippy nature of the movie it doesn’t come across well during the actual act which is probably intentional to fuck with your mind some more. Anyway, even simulated non-con needs a trigger warning and it doesn’t hurt to put one sentence after your glowing paragraph praising the film to mention it.

[(Anonymous)]

I guess it’s more helpful to disseminate misinformation like the comment you replied to instead.

[icecheetah]

Oh. Ergggh... .
Thanks for the warning.

[(Anonymous)]

It has a scene where the main character, who is trying to break into acting, is fake-assaulted as part of a scripted scene on set, and she reacts badly, and the other actor is apologetic. The scene was just upsetting to me, so if AYRT knows people who admitted to finding it hot, they probably just needed to be more discerning about the company they kept.

[(Anonymous)]

Hm??? It does present rape but it's never sexualized. I pretty sure it even tries to present it as a obvious awful thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe you just never met the kind of guy who really enjoyed her dead eyed look and helplessness in that scene. I, unfortunately, have met several. :(

[(Anonymous)]

Just because gross dudes find the scene sexually appealing doesn't mean it was intentionally drawn to be titillating to them.

[(Anonymous)]

Nayrt

So we're objecting to the movie, not because it's bad, but simply because although it's fine in itself, bad people like it in a bad way? That seems kind of unreasonable. I mean, apart from anything else, you could use that criterion to object to anything with an Otaku fan base.

[(Anonymous)]

Do guys actually brag about that kind of thing?

"I loved seeing the raped woman so helpless and broken"

Yeaaaah sounds like the kind of thing someone sensible would keep to themselves.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

But what does that have to do with it being better or worse than Black Swan? Creepy people are into a lot of things, and most of them love to misinterpret scenes like that in the worst way /because/ they're into those things. You're not wrong to be bothered by a rape scene obviously, and you're right to warn against it, but content is often more substantial than reaction in cases like these, idk, imo.

[(Anonymous)]

your comment so encapsulates internet callout culture that i want to frame it. you can't tell me you did not deliberately word that as you did, knowing full well the actual context of the scene. how perfectly disingenuous

[(Anonymous)]

Feel kinda bad for preferring Black Swan even though it very clearly ripped, if not outright plagiarized Perfect Blue. I enjoyed Black Swan's ambiance and general sense of pacing better and felt more sympathetic towards Nina than Mima. IDK, I admittedly also have a special attachment/bias towards the film, what with having watched it on my 21st birthday so I associate it with my own coming into adulthood.

"What happened to my sweet girl?"
"She's gone."

[kaijinscendre]

Makes sense because Darren Aronofsky is a HUGE fan of Perfect Blue. I believe he bought rights to it because he copied a scene from it for Requiem For A Dream.

https://youtu.be/vt0ulBpi2zA

[(Anonymous)]

Princess Tutu is the winner, imo!

[(Anonymous)]

You ARE right.

[(Anonymous)]

What does that show have anything to do with these?

[(Anonymous)]

it's both swan lake AND anime, and therefore the perfect venn diagram overlap i assume

[bur]

Is this supposed to be a hot take because this is stone cold fact.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I don't see how this is a secret to anyone but the people who don't know about Perfect Blue.

[(Anonymous)]

Perfect Blue was immeasurably better, holy shit this isn't even arguable. Black Swan had so many tone issues, like it wasn't even sure what it wanted to be, and was a mess.