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[Faction Paradox]

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[David Boreanz and Alyson Hannigan]

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[Trent Reznor, Marilyn Manson]

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Do you think Detective Pikachu is Copaganda?

I dunno, I didn't watch it

You should it's really good! Although, do yourself a favour, stop watching about half an hour from the end, and make up your own better ending.

No, really I DID enjoy the film. It really is a great film UNTIL the ending.

Nah

It's been awhile since I watched the movie, but I would say yes.

They still present cops as neutral and any failure from the cops is due to powers outside of their control so they aren't held accountable where they have failed.

I mean, anything portraying a police officer/the police in a good light when they are at minimum at the side from the main focus of the story - then yeah.

And Detective Pikachu caters to a younger audience, which as the saying goes 'get them while they're young' - where convincing kids that cops can do no wrong/are infallible could be considered as a form of propaganda.

See, I'm not sure that I would use "copaganda" this way (actually, I wouldn't use it at all for stylistic reasons, but setting that aside). I think it should be framed more specifically - either (a) out and out fluff pieces that promote police as comically benign or (b) the specific set of tropes that portray police officers as honorable shields needed to protect against the omnipresent and ever-menacing pure evil scheming villainous chaotic threat posed by criminals, who should be enabled to use as much power as possible for the purpose of that protection regardless of laws or civilian oversight, and who can for the most part be trusted with such power because of the pureness of their hearts and their missions, because of their excellent judgment, and because of their technical expertise.

Honestly, why are some people obsessed with framing cops as bad guys and bad guys as guys who were just oppressed by the system in 2021
Let's be honest, some bad guys are really just bad guys and some cops aren't all that bad. And, well, in some cases the reverse holds true.

Having said that, didn't watch but Detective Pikachu is cute

Sure, some cops aren't all that bad, and crime is bad. But it's not really an issue about individual cops being good or bad.

There are a lot of problems with policing in America. It's badly carried out. In many cases it's harmful to people it should be protecting, police departments are often overmilitarized and overaggressive, we ask police to do way too many things that they're not good at (like providing social services), specific bad cops abuse their authority and act like pieces of shit, and across the board the brunt of those things is especially heavy against racial minorities. But none of those things make the police do the work of stopping crime better. Spending a ton of time on social services, and running around being extremely violent and all the rest of it, probably makes them worse at actually investigating and stopping crime.

So you have all of those problems, but none of that means all cops are that bad. There's just a bunch of problems with the policing system that need to be solved. We need serious reforms. OK, great. But that's where you run into problems, and it becomes a problem with policing as an institution - police as an institution block reforms and aggressively oppose things that might help address this problem. Even "good" cops all too often end up covering for, or not doing anything against, bad cops.

AYRT - No, I totally acknowledge and agree with all of this. Sorry I think I just overreacted at seeing people call Detective Pikachu copaganda lol. I didn't watch it though so my impression of "aww, so cute and innocuous!" could be wrong?

DA
It's a cute film and I enjoyed it when I saw it in theatres. But I can't deny that it has copaganda stuff in it.

Yeah, there's a whole lot of romanticising of crime going on and like... is pretending criminals have zero personal responsibility for their actions and are all just poor twiddle victims of the system and the police are the REAL baddies really the hill people want to die on? That's so bizarre to me. I agree that the police has issues that need to be addressed but no, actually, the "system" doesn't force people to rob, assault, kill or rape others, that's their own shitty life decisions.

Spoken like someone privileged who never had to worry about eating. People don't rob because they're evil, they largely rob out of desperation because they're poor with few options. There are millions of social factors behind crime, and you sound like a suburban white-ass Karen Pharisee who thinks in black and white of "cops god, criminals always eeeeeviiiiiil aren't I such a good person look at me praying in church see see see I can't be baaaaad tee hee" stuck up bitch.

It's about systemic failure in a society that believes that strong law enforcement is the only way to live in a safe society.

Truth is, the world is a lot more complex than that. Cops and robbers films run into the issue of always painting things as Good VS Bad. And that's why people are making the argument that we shouldn't be producing media in which cops have a narrative. It detracts the conversation into individual responsibility when in reality we need to talk about how the system is failing us.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” ― Edmund Burke

That is the problem with real cops vs media.

Yes, some bad guys are just bad guys, but often the cops are bad and if you speak up, you get Adrian Schoolcraft (turned into a mental institution on bullshit charges because he was working to out the corruption of his precinct), they get stuck with no advancement and frozen out or fired for "creating a hostile work environment," or they remain silent, allowing the abuses to continue.

Instead of cops brow-beating everything, we should expand social services and have social workers to help on calls that require them. But we won't, because prisons are largely private and provide slave labor, thus meaning the prison pipeline goes strong and will continue to. Money is the reason we won't see a reform to policing anytime soon in the US.

lmao

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