[ SECRET POST #5209 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5209 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I don't have tumblr and am only on archiveofourown. I don't come across 'antis' but I do come across some very morally questionable fic, as in clearly peodophilia.
I'm with OP on this.
I've read through the discussion and it's always the same voices saying the same things (as what always happens on fandomsecrets!) that is, throwing ad hominen attacks at anyone who states that- for the majority of people- coming across a fanfic with an adult having sex with a literal child (I'm not talking about a 17 yr old with a 20 yr old, I'm talking about, for example, a 12yr old Loki being raped by a 20 something year old Tony Stark as with one description of a fic I came across) as being fucking wrong.
"Yes but it shouldn't matter because the characters are fictional".
Look, I actually don't mind fic that deals with dark matters. I infact love a good hurt comfort fic, where a character is raped and has to deal with working through their trauma. I even don't mind fics dealing with childhood rape, if they're written well and, again, focus on the characters dealing with healing. I also agree that for a lot of people, these fics can work through their own trauma.
On the other hand, there are fics (I know because I've come across them) that are clearly just porn of a child being raped by an adult. Sure sure they're fictional characters. But if everyone steps away from fan fiction for a moment, look at it from the pov of the rest of society, way from the fan fiction niche. Survey 100 people in the street (including fan fic writers) and I'd argue that they would find the idea of a fictional pornographic story of an adult raping a child to be disgusting and wrong, and they would question the writer.
Should people be doxxed for writing a fic with a twenty year old having sex with a seventeen year old? Of course not!
However, too many people on fandomsecrets it seems are so busy throwing ad hominems at the so called "antis" and saying YKINMK to every single fan fic written out there, without really looking at the truly disturbing fan fiction that is out there, that is truly advocating paedophilia.

[(Anonymous)]

A fic about 12 y/o Loki getting raped by a 20 y/o is not advocating pedophilia, period. Finding fic like that revolting is perfectly fine, but you're making completely disingenuous arguments that don't hold water. No shit asking a bunch of randos on the street if they'd find fictional porn involving a fictional adult/minor uncomfortable would get agreements, but fucked up porn has always been popular, and no rando is going to admit to liking it, especially without the context and nuance.

Not to mention, just going to the masses and asking if something is morally wrong based on their immediate reaction of disgust is a horrible measure of right/wrong. That's literally how moral panic operates.

People can write whatever disgusting bullshit they want and you can 100% find the content gross ad avoid it, but making ridiculous claims that there's something wrong with the writer/audience for enjoying it ain't it. Your feelings of disgust are not a moral compass. You are not a good person because you think it's gross. There is literally no proof, in any capacity, that certain kind of fic leads to tons of people thinking it's ok IRL. This is not how morality works.