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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-04-16 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #5215 ]


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(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
I think poc voice for poc characters is something that can only exist in the us. When the movie gets dubbed by local voice actors of different countries, all of that goes down the drain anyway and hardly anyone cares.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
No, I think people do care, more and more. Look at the "who can translate Amanda Gorman" controversy, for instance.

(Unless you're just saying there's no local POC in other countries, which is just dumb)

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
/DA

(Unless you're just saying there's no local POC in other countries, which is just dumb)

The world does have a lot of homogenous countries. Japan is a classic example, but also in my country (and in many other smaller European countries especially in the East) about 96-97% of the population is white. Which is not to say that there are no POC at all - just that there's not much to choose from.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
Holy strawman, nobody who speaks up about wanting more POC voiced by POC has a beef with the Japanese dub of some US movie getting a Japanese seiyuu to play the black guy. This is and always has been about the original voice actors.

NAYRT

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
It's not a strawman, it's literally the point of the parent comment:

When the movie gets dubbed by local voice actors of different countries, all of that goes down the drain anyway and hardly anyone cares.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 09:31 am (UTC)(link)
Haha well, if so, that’s good! But I believe anons above me were talking about dubbing so I replied accordingly. Also the aforementioned Amanda Gorman controversy (although obviously not about voice actors) showed that apparently there are people who care about the skin color of translators.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 10:00 am (UTC)(link)
Even though Amanda Gorman picked the translator that social media nutjobs harassed and forced to resign.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
+1

If we had to cast a POC for every dubbed non-white character, we'd have a lot less to watch because we don't have a big POC voice acting pool to choose from. Also, the audience doesn't care who's the voice as long as they're good at their job.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
As a POC (a term I'm growing to dislike), I can comfortably say I don't care at all. It's always a nice bonus? Like with Mulan (the animated movie), or Coco. But it honestly doesn't matter/occur to me until someone brings up that the cast's race matched the characters, and I'm like, oh, that's nice. I'm already being represented by the depiction, why should I care what race the voice is?

Again, this is the opinion of one "POC".

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 07:29 am (UTC)(link)
i don't believe casting poc voice actors for poc roles is for "you". or to put it differently, meant to be about representation

it's about poc actors already having a limited number of roles they are considered for and opening poc roles for white people limits these opportunities further

that is how i understand the issue at least

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I get that. I guess I was seeing it more from a place as the consumer, having companies like Disney shovel representation down our throats and telling us to be grateful. I am all for poc getting more work and voicing opportunities, I would only hope they wouldn't be limited to their ethnicity.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Considering that the vast majority of works - particularly older works that get redubbed, etc - still have an overrepresentation of non-POC people I suppose it'd be easier to just... you know, hire people regardless of "race" and try to be less racist. But I guess to many this is just an utopia by now. Fuck this world.

(Anonymous) 2021-04-17 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
In theory, that sounds logical. In practice, when people say "let's just hire people based on ability!" they end up with all or mostly white people due to factors other than skill and talent. If there's one role available and 80% of the people being considered for that role are white, that tips the odds in favor of a white person getting cast. Especially if some of those white people are famous. Because unfortunately, Hollywood isn't really a "talent beats everything" kind of place. If they can get a big name white star for a role, that's what they want... not a talented POC.