[ SECRET POST #5252 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5252 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 41 secrets from Secret Submission Post #752.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, it's sooooo weird to be happy when someone famous speaks well of a frequently maligned minority group you belong to. Like, ugh! So freaky to enjoy positivity like that! What a sick puppy.

[(Anonymous)]

[stares]

That... is not what AYRT is bothered by? Wtf.

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't it? That's what the OP is expressing, and it's what that anon was responding to.

[(Anonymous)]

To be honest, that anon didn't sound like they were replying directly to OP's secret but more the weird and overly obsessive sounding people (see above) that seem weirdly over-invested in the relationships of a guy who has publicly said at one point how much he loved his wife.

(I use past-tense but he may still love her, I have no idea, I know of the guy in passing but haven't seen more than a few clips so I haven't seen any of his bits about his wife).

[(Anonymous)]

Deciding to comment on someone's secret by talking about the actions of people who aren't op and aren't actually participating in the discussion seems like a weird choice.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean yeah but it wouldn't be the first time. Often secrets open up discussion about things that are related to, but not strictly coming from the secret.

[(Anonymous)]

And that's fine when it happens organically. I just think it's bizarre that people treat the OP like they're the spokesperson for the part of fandom that's annoying them when they're not even part of that group.

[(Anonymous)]

Personally I do think it's weird to hang one's self-worth on anything a famous person has to say. Like, that is a major aspect of celeb culture that wigs me out.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT but yeah. Like someone said above, this isn't "representation". I understand wanting to see people like you in media, but these are REAL people. It's just super weird to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Feeling happy isn't the same thing as hanging one's self worth on a celebrity's words, though.

[(Anonymous)]

They're real fucking people. This isn't about your Representation. I say this as a minority, this is on par with lesbians whining about Elliot Page being "stolen" from us.

[(Anonymous)]

Uhhhhh there is a BIG difference in saying, "Wow, I'm more bummed than I thought I would be about a guy who loudly made note in his art about how much he adored his Jewish wife getting divorced because it was just nice to see a positive, loving representation when usually you only hear negative "Jewish wife" stereotypes" and a lesbian saying "Wow, if someone is a trans man, he's no longer in my identity group--so trans people stole this from me!"

I say this as a queer person, though I'm not Jewish.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks, anon. You get it. I feel like some people are reading a bit too much into this secret. I liked the bit about loving his Jewish wife. I was sad when they divorced because I liked that bit. Then I felt stupid because I shouldn't care about someone's divorce I don't know personally.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

As a gay: I get what it's like to be marginialized, but treating REAL FUCKING PEOPLE like representation is going a bit far.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Who the hell is supposed to do the representing if it's not real people?

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, you're fine. It's just that some assholes here like to pretend like it's weird and unnatural have any opinions or feelings about famous people. Good ones, bad ones, it's all the same to them.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly as someone who's commented a couple times in this thread, I had no issues with OP's secret. It was a simple, "Damn it was nice, I am sad." it's the people who were derailing this into a conversation about 'representation' (which is a super weird way to talk about a real life relationship) that some of us had issues with.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah and those people are being assholes. OP didn't say anything about being owed representation, people in fandom are just cynically programmed to think anyone expressing feelings over seeing someone like them is being all MUH REPRESENTATION even when they're not.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

DA - yes, I agree with this. Even in the "real world outside of fandom", many people take special interest in celebrities who share similar characteristics or backgrounds, especially if they are relatively rare to see, and so get sad when sad things happen to them. Fandom wank around the ideas of ~representation don't apply here.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

New Anon Here:

Like, bringing up how much he loved his wife was a noticeable part of his work. If we want to we might as well call his comedy RPF of himself, his family, and the people he knows because we're reaching like giraffes tonight.