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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-07-09 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #5299 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5299 ⌋

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philstar22: (WTF Giles)

[personal profile] philstar22 2021-07-09 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh, well, sometimes people actually don't like those things. But then they shouldn't read them. I hate omegaverse. 90% of what I read these days is PWP, but I don't like omegaverse. It does nothing for me. But my solution is just not to read it. I don't read it and then leave a review saying I don't like omegaverse.
pantswarrior: Laguna scratches his head. (huh?)

[personal profile] pantswarrior 2021-07-09 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, exactly. I relate to "I'd like this a lot more if it wasn't just about sex", but that's why I don't bother clicking on most things marked as PWP/porn, or rated Explicit and like 3000 words long with a bunch of sex-related tags.

And if I do out of boredom or because I didn't read the tags/rating carefully enough, I sure wouldn't be rude enough to leave a comment to that effect. WTF. It's not like anyone is COMPELLLLLLED to read a given fic even though it contains subject matter they don't like. o_o And if they do secretly like it... why should it be a secret? Most people love porn, and there are enough people into omegaverse that it seems like not a horrible dirty shame. :P
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[personal profile] philstar22 2021-07-09 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. Only time a review like that would be appropriate, IMHO, is if it was a gift fic/fest fic for someone who specifically said they didn't want what that fic was. Once had someone write a fic for me for a fest and include one of my specifically mentioned squicks (saying they thought the thing I asked for had to include the thing I didn't want).
pantswarrior: "I am love. Find me, walk beside me..." (Default)

[personal profile] pantswarrior 2021-07-09 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Oof, that's exasperating. :/

Honestly sometimes I do click on a fic that wasn't what I was expecting but if there were things about it I did like enough to warrant a comment, I just, y'know, try to focus on the stuff that "you wrote especially well". I'm sure lots of people enjoyed the porny bits or whatever and will praise them for those, hahah.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I am trying hard not to leave “I usually don’t like X, but…” comments. I mean it as a compliment, saying that this author did something unusual and particularly good that stands out to me. But I get that it can be a bit “I’m not like other girls/readers”.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-09 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
as a writer who sometimes does off the wall stuff, it's all in the phrasing. I would never take a proper compliment as the commentator trying to prove they're not like the other girls. start with praising what you really did like, then slip in "[X tagged thing] isn't my usual jam but you made me like it!" at the end. Completely a compliment, no harm no foul, and I'd even go so far as to say any writer who got angry at it at that point, the reaction says more terrible things about them than it does about you the reader.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-10 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Personally I think, "I'm not usually into [type of fic] but [praise for fic which is exception to one's personal rule]" is high praise, and is undoubtedly meant as a such. Someone is saying your writing is so good it sold them on something they are disinclined to like.

But that's very, very different than, "I would like this fic more if it weren't the type of fic it is," which is just a criticism, and not even a useful one at that.

I can 100% relate to the feeling of "If this porn were less porn and more story, maybe I would actually enjoy it," because pure porn just doesn't do anything for me (with very, very rare exceptions). But I would never leave a comment to that effect on someone's work because, like, they obviously know what they wrote. Pretty sure it's pure porn on purpose, lol.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2021-07-10 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Agree. I know absolutely zero about Batman/Dick Greyson/Jason Todd, et al, except for the bits i've learned via fandom osmosis.

But there is *one writer* on my subscribed list who writes AMAZING Bat!verse stuff, and the strength of their writing in other things is what made me click on that fic to begin with, when normally I'd totally ignore it.

And i'm glad I did!

(Anonymous) 2021-07-10 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, I'm a sucker for good batverse stuff. Please can I ask who the author is?
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[personal profile] iff_and_xor 2021-07-10 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I second the recommendation of thepartyresponsible’s fic! I had never read any Batman/DCU stuff, but got into it through some of their MCU/DC crossovers.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-10 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never understood why writers dislike getting comments along the lines of "I don't normally like X, but I really enjoyed this story". How can that be considered anything but a compliment, unless the very idea that there exists a person who is not 100% into whatever you have written is somehow offensive to you.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-10 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
If you're getting comments on your porn rather than just anon kudos, it must be really good porn!

(Anonymous) 2021-07-10 08:18 am (UTC)(link)
As others have mentioned, I think some phrasing should get the benefit of the doubt and be interpreted as a compliment rather than some sort of defensiveness. Other phrasing really does deserve a "write your own then" or a "why did you read this clearly tagged fic then" response.

That said, omegaverse stuff is currently dominating my fandom, and if I want any poem at all, I have to read it. That doesn't mean I like it because I fucking hate that genre. We don't always have much of a choice in what to read but we do always have a choice in how or whether to comment.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-10 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
* porn, not poem obviously. Stupid autocorrect.