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⌈ Secret Post #770 ⌋

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101.

[Earth: Final Conflict seasons 1-4]

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102.

[West Wing]

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103.

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104.

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105.

[30 Rock, Tina Fey/Alec Baldwin]

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106.

[Prince of Tennis]

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107.

[Wall-E]

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108.

[Rookies]

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109.

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110. [repeat]

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111.

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112.

[Grace Potter and the Nocturnals]

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113.

[Saw III]

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114.

[Sapphire and Steel]

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115.

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116.

[Wilby Wonderful/Paul Blart: Mall Cop]

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117.

[Fruits Basket]

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118.

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119.

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120.

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121.

[The Spider Cliff Mysteries

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122.

[Avatar/The Addams Family]

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123.

[The Invisible]

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126.

[Christian Bale]

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129.

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133.

[Dollhouse]

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134.

[Vickie Guerrero, WWE]

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135.

[R Truth/Ed Reed, WWE/Baltimore Ravens]

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136.

[Gears of War/Metal Gear Solid]

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137.

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138.

[Jon Stewart]

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139. [repeat]

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140.

[Tom Waits, Wristcutters]

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141.

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142.

[A Mighty Wind]

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143.

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144.

[Malice Mizer, Kami]

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145.

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146.

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147. [repeat]

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148.

[Sarah: The Bad Girl's Club]

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149.

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151.

[Pineapple Express]

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155.

[My Name is Earl]

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156.

[Robert Pattinson/Kristen Stewart]

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157.

[Torchwood]

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158.

[BSG]

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[BSG]

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164.

[Ace Attorney]

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165. [repeat]

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166.

[Lord of the Rings]

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167.

[Pascal Curious + Nervous Subject - The Sims 2]

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The Town Crotch (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/The%20Town%20Crotch)
Just As Long As Me (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/Just%20as%20Long%20as%20Me)
Soft Rocked By Me (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/Soft%20Rocked%20By%20Me)
Til The Money Comes (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/Till%20the%20Money%20Comes)
My Millionaire Girlfriend (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/Millionaire%20Girlfriend)
Make You Cry (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/Make%20You%20Cry)
Baby Got Back (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/Baby%20Got%20Back)
First of May (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/First%20of%20May)

I did have Someone Is Crazy (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/Someone%20is%20Crazy) on my list (I've taken it off and put it back on and then taken it off again) but I guess it's too specific of a vendetta against one particular woman to be compelling as a sexist argument against all.

I don't think any individual one would be that bad (except maybe The Town Crotch), but when you put them all together there's just this thread of contempt for women running through them that really makes me uncomfortable. And yes, he has tons of songs so that the total percentage of offensive-to-neutral is not that bad, but still.

Re: Future Soon, I get that it's like, how can you take it seriously at all given the subject matter? To me there's still the attempt at emotional truth behind the sci-fi that says he thinks women are stupid, even the ones he claims to be in love with. He said when I saw him recently that this song is based on an experience he had in 4th grade and details his 4th grade revenge fantasy. So maybe it's not fair to judge it in an adult context.

I'd forgotten about "The Town Crotch." :/

But a lot of those...I feel like it's really obvious that the songs are supposed to be poking fun at or even outright mocking the singer. "The Future Soon" is the most obvious to me--dumb, self-entitled nerd gets rejected by a girl and, rather than just accept it, comes up with a ridiculous fantasy about how he'll make her his with mad science.

I admit I don't see even ironic misogyny in "First of May," though. There's only brief references to women at all, and references to men as well; it's about sex rather than a sex.

And I haven't listened to "Make You Cry," and the lyrics are creepy as fuck, but his comment on it is, "It’s another love song from a crazy person - this guy wants to win the girl so he can punish her for not loving him. I guess. He certainly seems confused and angry and sad. Do NOT hang out with him."

So while there are some questionable ideas about women cropping up in his songs now and then, "misogynist" seems like far too strong and inaccurate a word..."possessor of unexamined male privilege" fits better.

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