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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-07-16 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #5306 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5306 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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03. [SPOILERS for the Tearling trilogy by Erika Johansen]




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04. [SPOILERS for Danganronpa V3]
















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05. [WARNING for animal death]



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06. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia]




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07. [WARNING for discussion of sexual harassment]














Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #759.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Still having feelings about an old secret

(Anonymous) 2021-07-16 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I definitely am.

Re: Still having feelings about an old secret

(Anonymous) 2021-07-17 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
There was a secret a while ago about someone being mad that (in their perception) artists were drawing characters from some big popular wuxia show "as Black" and I looked at the art they included as an example and.

no, kiddo, just because YOU see that skin tone as Black doesn't mean it's a Black headcanon, wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

I AM A WHITE PERSON BUT I GREW UP AROUND A NUMBER OF IMMIGRANTS FROM CHINA AND THAT IS WITHIN THE NORMAL RANGE OF SKIN TONES FOR THAT AREA AND THERE IS A COLORISM PROBLEM ALL THE FUCK OVER CHINA, JESUS CHRIST

https://www.adolescent.net/a/youre-too-dark-a-discussion-about-asias-shade-range

Literally the only thing that I could identify as maybe-Black about that portrayal was the skin tone. Yes, I have known Black people with that skin tone; that skin tone might or might not be lighter than a brown paper bag. But why jump directly to "this is totally a Black headcanon" and get mad about it when ... .... ??????????????????????????

Re: Still having feelings about an old secret

(Anonymous) 2021-07-17 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Alright now I want to see that secret in particular, if someone has a link.

Re: Still having feelings about an old secret

(Anonymous) 2021-07-17 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
When I was teaching in Korea, my coteacher told one of the kids that he shouldn't play so much soccer outside because he was too dark and he was too handsome for that. She was joking but still. Yeah, definitely, some Koreans at least tan very darkly.

Re: Still having feelings about an old secret

(Anonymous) 2021-07-17 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
I think I would be surprised if an actual wuxia show main character had dark skin, because of, wow, colorism! So though I don't know the show in question, I believe the artist probably did draw the character darker than they are in the show. But you're right, that doesn't make it a black headcanon, there are people all over the place in all the East Asian countries with much darker skin than you tend to see portrayed in their media.

Re: Still having feelings about an old secret

(Anonymous) 2021-07-17 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen a wuxia where it was a (minor) plot point that a couple of characters had darkly tanned skin. They were good people! Explicitly, v. good people. But their dark tan was also spoken of as unattractive, too.

Re: Still having feelings about an old secret

(Anonymous) 2021-07-17 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Only thing that bothers me is how so many people think the colorism is based in anti-black racism when the main factor is actually classism.

Re: Still having feelings about an old secret

(Anonymous) 2021-07-17 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. That's because even woke Americans still can't see past the end of their noses.

Re: Still having feelings about an old secret

(Anonymous) 2021-07-17 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
DA - I mean, no lies detected.

Re: Still having feelings about an old secret

(Anonymous) 2021-07-17 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
I don't remember which fanart they used but just because YOU think the artist didn't intend it as a black headcanon doesn't have to mean they didn't. A lot of fanartists who draw characters much darker than canonically described make a big fuss about it and often explicitly state their intentions. And if this was about the MDZS character/clan with the uncontrollably violent streak being singled out as the designated dark one in fanart ... Yeah, that's still an issue.

Re: Still having feelings about an old secret

(Anonymous) 2021-07-17 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I think a lot about the anon that lost their shit over a FFXIV secret where someone said they shipped Estinien/Alphinaud, and now that I'm through Heavensward, like... yo, it's there. You can be disgusted by it if you want bc of the age gap but like... man, Alphinaud so clearly has feelings for Estinien. It's a ship that's definitely there.

Re: Still having feelings about an old secret

(Anonymous) 2021-07-17 07:10 am (UTC)(link)

I usually don't ship NPC/NPC when a PC is part of a game, but now that you mention it I totally see it. Guess I ship this now, time to look for fic! Wish I hadn't missed this secret, I'll have to go look for that too lol

Re: Still having feelings about an old secret

(Anonymous) 2021-07-17 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
A couple years ago, I played a video game called Tales of Xillia where you can choose between playing as two protagonists, one male and one female (with their own arcs and personalities, not a Pokemon or Dragon Age "choose your gender" player character, and the one you didn't choose became your deuteragonist). I chose the male, Jude, because his description appealed to me more, but I ended up liking both characters a lot. At some point after that, I was browsing old F!S posts and found a secret about the game that said the story was all about Milla (the female protag) so it was stupid that Jude even existed and he only did because the devs were too cowardly to force you to play as a woman.

And that's the secret I wish I'd known the canon for at the time it was posted because... what? Just what?! Okay, I give you that Jude might be a player character option because they were afraid to only have a female protag, and the main story does center around Milla. But the main part of the secret was "Jude is irrelevant" which is just really weird and stupid? Even if you play as Milla (which I did, more recently) Jude is still the most important character in her story, so the logic "if you're not the main character, you're irrelevant" is...???? Wow, guess all stories only need one character then. Guess Ron and Hermione didn't need to exist because they're not Harry.