[ SECRET POST #5306 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5306 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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03. [SPOILERS for the Tearling trilogy by Erika Johansen]




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04. [SPOILERS for Danganronpa V3]
















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05. [WARNING for animal death]



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06. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia]




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07. [WARNING for discussion of sexual harassment]














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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #759.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Comments

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Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

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~35

[(Anonymous)]

Literal transphobia in this comment:
https://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/2445394.html?thread=1070161234#cmt1070161234

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01. https://i.imgur.com/ckdXd8W.jpg

Transcript by OP

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there's a reason other books didn't take off like hp did.
"[x] was better than harry potter"
most likely, it's not. your hate of jkr is clouding your judgement.
your dislike of jkr is warranted, and there are issues with the books, but i dare you to read some of the other YA magical books around that time. poor writing + concepts. there was potential but most have a reason they didn't succeed as much.

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probably going to get yelled at for this but it's OK to think something else was better than Harry Potter....

[(Anonymous)]

She was a good writer but she wasn’t the final word on children’s literature. Being more popular doesn’t mean you’re better.

[(Anonymous)]

Mm, even though I don't have any specific names off the top of my head, there were definitely YA books back then that were a lot better. "It's massively popular so it must be the best" really isn't a good argument; HP was good, don't get me wrong, but it was very... good to the common denominator, if that makes sense? It was good enough in so many aspects that it appealed to the widest possible base, instead of being excellent in any particular way that might alienate some subset of readers.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. Despite the myriad ways the story is inconsistent and full of plot holes and theoretically could have been better/more sophisticated, there is still something utterly magical and rare about the way it just effortlessly came alive in the minds of so many millions of people.

Different stories are strong in different ways, and there are unquestionably ways in which HP is weak and other stories are strong. But if we're going to talk about the entirety of HP as a whole, then evaluating other texts against HP just never feels meaningful to me. It always just feels like an impossible comparison; apples to mandrake roots.

[(Anonymous)]

Umm, is this addressing a specific person or article? ‘Cause I’ve never liked Harry Potter and my dislike of it has nothing to do with the author. I just personally found it boring and can think of several books that are way better.

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I absolutely agree! The storytelling hits just the right notes to appeal to the masses. And I think people forget that when HP was first published there weren’t that many choices for people to read. Libraries were disappearing left and right through the 90s and readers were primarily stuck with buying books. Barnes & Noble and Borders were opening seemingly everywhere but even those superstores only had maybe 150-200 titles for any genre. Waldenbooks, Daltons, and the other small places had even fewer. Once the first book got some press for being so popular, it was a given it would just grow.

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I thought the books were only okay when I read them when they came out and I was like 10 at the time. The first lot were fun child-fantasy books, but the attempts to 'age them up' didn't work with various parts of the lore crumbling under trying to give the books more depth. The sorting house alone is just stupid as fuck beyond the first installments, because no nuance was added to that concept at all and it's basically the 'good/evil' marker with no complexity.

So no, it's not hate of JKR clouding my opinion, I just never thought they were amazing.

[(Anonymous)]

There's some that's better and a lot that's worse.

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02. [SPOILERS]
https://i.imgur.com/0l6DJBf.png

[(Anonymous)]

I thought Matthias's death was sad but fitting, and I haven't read this book yet so your secret is a bit confusing to me. If I had to guess, it looks like this Hanne is Nina's new love interest, and you find it suspicious because... she's a girl and therefore it's inclusive pandering? Sorry, but I think that's a stretch. Bardugo wasn't planning any sequels to the Crooked Kingdom books when she wrote them, so she didn't kill Matthias just so Nina could have a new love interest. It was just a love story that ended tragically. That's not a new trope. Moving on from a lost love isn't a new trope either, and it's better than implying Nina had to be alone forever because there was only one person she could ever love. And not that this needs a further excuse to not be "pandering," but Nina being bi was in the original books as well so it wasn't a retcon for more representation.

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03. [SPOILERS for the Tearling trilogy by Erika Johansen]
http://i.imgur.com/ShTMpjF.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Omg, I would hate that so much.

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04. [SPOILERS for Danganronpa V3]
https://i.imgur.com/PGEopKg.png

[(Anonymous)]

Holy shit, THIS.

And then you have his fans trying to defend the terrible, worse than serial killing incest by saying his feelings weren't his fault because his sister groomed and abused him -- but they say it like it's canon when it's just a headcanon!

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05. [WARNING for animal death]
https://i.imgur.com/gx2geWW.png

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aw poor doggo. Losing a pet is losing a friend.

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06. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia]
https://i.imgur.com/CZvSkfB.png

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Just pretend all the good stuff in Father Ted was by Arthur Mathews. He's the man who brought you Toast of London so it's probably true anyway. See also Big Train

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07. [WARNING for discussion of sexual harassment]
https://i.imgur.com/6qd0hh8.png

[(Anonymous)]

Hard agree. There was a time when he was lauded and I that I had been proved wrong. But then he proved us all right by being as skeevy as his vibe always suggested.

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