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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-07-31 04:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #5321 ]


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(Anonymous) 2021-07-31 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. I only remember the "not gay enough" backlash (i.e., all the "it doesn't count as representation if you just announce it retroactively X years later without having made any effort to actually present it in your books at the time" stuff).

Which, IIRC, kind of raised a few eyebrows at the time as to the performative nature of her allyship, so...
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[personal profile] philstar22 2021-07-31 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
It is possible to get it right on one issue and be very wrong on another. It is possible to not be homophobic while also being transphobic. People are complicated. But JKR is transphobic and she refuses to even listen to trans people and actually learn. It would be one thing if she said transphobic stuff but then listened to criticism and understood why she was wrong and changed. But she keeps insisting her transphobic perspective is right and keeps on saying transphobic things over and over again, even after being called out.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2021-07-31 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. It takes the pro-cop bias and whitewashing of police action to a completely different level than other cop shows. This is always an issue with procedurals, but Blue Bloods is just the absolute worst. My mom loves the show, but I couldn't make it through more than a couple episodes with her.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-31 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
That’s the only backlash I remember too.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-31 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Mainly conservatives complained.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-31 09:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Ouch--this hits close to home. I've been in your position and, in my opinion, there's little you can do aside from keeping criticism constructive.

It doesn't feel good to see other people fail, especially out of ignorance, but we can't always control their situation or adequately protect them.

Who knows? Maybe--if the statement is delivered gently enough--saying her book needs serious improvement might be a benefit to her, even if it hurts her feelings in the short term.

Good luck to both of you.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-31 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
That's dumb as hell

(Anonymous) 2021-07-31 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much this.
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2021-07-31 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

(Also, I do think she's homophobic. Not actively so in the way that she's actively transphobic, but deciding that Dumbledore was gay and in love with Wizard Hitler in response to a fan question about whether he ever found love is a weird look at best.)
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2021-07-31 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
You're a good friend and you're helping her by gently steering her towards better books.

Also, googling that author...wow. That sounds dire.

(Anonymous) 2021-07-31 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
That at least is a stretch given Dumbledore shunned Grindelwald when he went full Hitler and renounced his extremist views?

(Anonymous) 2021-07-31 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Nobody is shitty 100% of the time. That's not really an accomplishment, though.
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2021-07-31 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It's still weird for me whether he renounced it or not, mainly because how she phrased the answer (which I had to look up, since it was a long time ago). The question—paraphrasing—was basically "did he ever find love?" and the answer was "he's gay actually," which doesn't answer the question at all. "He had a boyfriend/husband/string of one-night-stands with other dudes" would be an answer to the question, otherwise it implies that gay people can't find love.

What she actually ended up implying was that he was a Tragic Gay who fell in love with one guy and spent the next half-century or whatever pining, and then died. I cut her some slack at the time because queer representation in both fantasy and children's lit left a lot to be desired, and because she's writing in a universe where most people seem to get hung up on their first love and either end up with that person or die lonely and pining. But she had subsequent interviews and tweets to tell us all about wizard toilets or lack thereof, and my slack diminished as a result.

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