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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-10-28 04:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #5410 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5410 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-28 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Low bar to clear, there OP. But yeah, I wish Disney had the balls to make it canon.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
They didn’t have the guts to make Finnrey canon. What a shame.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so glad about that.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
So glad that Disney didn’t have guts?

(Anonymous) 2021-10-28 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh word

(Anonymous) 2021-10-28 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought the meme was Twilight, not Titanic? Either way, I don't agree.
philstar22: (organa mothma)

[personal profile] philstar22 2021-10-28 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Meh. I'm glad the ship wasn't canon mostly because I think Poe is better as a secondary character with Rey and Finn as the only two main new heroes. The three just didn't work as a trio when the third movie tried to force that on us.

That being said, I do like reading some fics with these two. And frankly, just about anything would have been better than what we actually got in The Rise of Skywalker.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-28 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Still better than the character assassination in TLJ though.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
TLJ is actually the only Star Wars movie I've ever found palatable. And the only boring parts were Finn's, probably because Finn is a pretty boring character. So is Rey tbh but at least in TLJ she had some character development. Too bad TRoS happened.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
TRoS is not great, but it is a lot better than TLJ. Most of its flaws are because it has to spend so much time fixing the garbage fire that was TLJ and creating a new bridge from TFA to TRoS because of the problems there. TLJ starts with the sort of prank calling gag that even The Simpsons have moved past by now.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
TROS is a heaping flaming pile of garbage. TLJ is a movie that about 50% works extremely well (albeit in a way that pisses off a lot of people for various aesthetic and/or lore-based and/or political reasons) and 50% doesn't really work. But most of the actual serious storytelling problems with TLJ are internal to TLJ (essentially stuff to do with the fact that the space-chase doesn't really work at all and it fucks up the pacing in the whole movie) or shared throughout the three movies as a whole (the fact that they never at any point do a good job of defining what the First Order is, what its relationship to the Resistance is, or what the stakes are, because they just want it to be the original movies again and not worry about it). There's no character assassination in TLJ and the emotional and character throughlines are generally clear and coherent (although, again, not to a lot of peoples' subjective taste).

So there's no intrinsic reason that TROS had to make the shitty creative decisions that they made. It's mystifying how we ended up in a state where JJ Abrams just decided that he didn't want to pick up on any of the story beats in TLJ, despite the fact that he was ultimately the person in charge of TROS, but that is in fact what happened. And the resulting movie is complete dogshit in every way. JJ Abrams just made a lot of really awful, bad choices and it resulted in a horrible movie.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Rian didn't pick up character beats from TFA, why should he be given any respect when someone had to come back and fix his shitty reboot shoved in the middle of a trilogy? There is nothing worth salvaging in TLJ, and the reason JJ had to fix it is because Rian torched the franchise and ran. Rian was left a clear pathway to follow for his middle movie and he pissed it up the wall to be edgy. Don't try defending his shitty movie making. He trashed the fan community and the franchise just for shock value.

NAYRT

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not ayrt, above anon

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philstar22: (leia holdo)

[personal profile] philstar22 2021-10-29 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Hard disagree on that one. TLJ is my favorite of the sequels.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
You're objectively wrong though. You don't enjoy it, you just enjoy seeing fans lose the thing that gave them joy. You enjoy seeing someone being a sadistic, ego ridden, asshole.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
And you’re a delusional idiot, who’s so far up their own ass that you can’t imagine someone having a different opinion as you without that different opinion being some kind of attack on you and. And you’re contributing to the bullshit notion of all opinions on these three films being inherently politicized, and purposeful attempts to go after your fragile worldview.

You’re objectively wrong that their opinion is objectively wrong, because that’s not how it works. They could not have been more casual and inoffensive in stating their opinion and disagreement, but you’re too far into your ego to see.

Touch some grass, edgelord.
philstar22: (leia older)

[personal profile] philstar22 2021-10-29 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
WTF is this comment? I am a Star Wars fan. Huge fan, have been since I was 7. And I loved TLJ, I thought it was the closest to the spirit of the OT while also being original and not a flat copy like TROS was and like TFA was a little bit. TLJ was Star Wars through and through, and made me feel that love for the series that I have.

And also, no, there is no objectively wrong in opinions on media. Your personal opinion is not fact, nor is mine.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
"it's my favorite" "NO IT ISN'T YOU'RE WRONG" lmfao. hey I liked TLJ too and not out of spite, but with reactions like this from fans I can see why someone would. you sound like one of the people that wanted Rey to be a Palpatine even though it's the dumbest shit ever. hope you're happy, champ.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Made more narrative sense than having her be no one for no reason. You don't put nobodies in fictional stories, that is writing 101. Wanting her to be a nobody was just pure spite against the fans who actually liked that Star Wars was one of the few solid dynasty based movies around.

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(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
It's just incredible

This is what TLJ haters actually believe

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed, that movie was an example of how to ruin characters for Hollywood ego and shock value.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 05:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. If I wanted to watch Rian Johnson stroke his ego boner for a few hours, I'd wait for the leaked sex tape.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Gross!

Seriously, with some tlj discourse added in the comments, the mouse definitely mismanaged Star Wars by getting rid of Lucas’s sequel treatments, just winging it with no plan, and hiring the wrong directors for the job.

They should have just hired Favreau and promoted Filoni to film the sequel trilogy. At the bare minimum, they actually care about SW, the three movies would have been cohesive and consistent to Lucas’s vision. At least they wouldn’t make too polarizing art house films or generic popcorn films.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2021-10-29 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
not to be pretentious but i think it depends on what you want in a love story? titanic's romance is good because of the character development. Rose's character is developed through this romance, like the romance straight up drives her arc (and it's reasonable for that to be the impetus). And so it's great to me. But I dislike Rose/Jack fic. It has zero appeal.

There's only character development for Finn re: Poe in the first, and honestly not really. So it is not a great romance to me, because I like romances to move character. But the fic is A+. The set-up we get in the movie makes for such rich fic.

(Anonymous) 2021-10-29 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly? I think I disagree. They hardly spend any time together after the escape, we don't see them talk to each other much, we just see them hug a couple of times and trade clothes/droids occasionally. It's a good starting place for romantic fan fiction, but Disney gets zero credit from me.