[ SECRET POST #5440 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5440 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[hey_hey_hey]

Every modern blockbuster is at least 2 hours and 15 minutes at the minimum. I'm ready for a filmmakers, make a film less than 2 hours challenge.

[(Anonymous)]

I remember when two hours was a long movie. I'm fine with ninety to a hundred minutes, and for a kids movie I can go as low as seventy. For a lot of kids, seventy minutes is about right for a movie. Shorter movie lengths might force writer/directors to take a long hard look at their story and trim the fat a bit, maybe hold off on some of the spiralling subplots and keep the action sequences tight.

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously, let's bring back the 90 minute standard.

P.S. We geriatric millennials don't have attention span problems, are backs are starting to seize up after two hours of sitting.

[(Anonymous)]

Venom 2 is 90+ minutes long.

[(Anonymous)]

'Limited Release' is also a problem - This movie was in theatres for a week at most where I am, and I had other plans. I'm not going to restructure my entire life around a movie that just looks like Oscar-bait.

If it had been out for a few weeks, I might have made the time to go see it.

[(Anonymous)]

I adore historical movies, but the rape element alienated me. I may watch it in the future, but at the moment I'm just not in the state of mind to watch that. I'd much rather read an account than have to see it (and I'd gladly read it on my smartphone, mr. Scott).

[(Anonymous)]

It is a late night tv type of movie, when you watch because there is nothing else on and you want to get a bit arty and just be able to say you've seen it. In the UK I call it a BBC2 late night Saturday special. Maybe BBC4 if they've still got a movie budget.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah that was also one of my issues, very much a case of 'Mr. Scott, read the room'

[(Anonymous)]

Same.

[(Anonymous)]

What did he spend all the money on? Was it all spent on Damon? The Green Knight looked better, and it had about a tenth of the budget to do it. The Green Knight turned a profit, too. Well just about/rant about Hollywood accounting practices, etc.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm GenX and I've never even heard of this movie.

I watch network sports with ads all weekend, and I follow a lot of film twitter accounts and read the NYT and entertainment sections on various websites and hang out on Reddit a lot.

How did they market this thing?

I saw eight billion mentions of House of Gucci and Dune, so...IDK.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the marketing is a huge part of this. I think it's mostly that Disney just didn't know what to do with it and didn't really care about it (the film started production at Fox and ended up at Disney as a result of the merger).

[(Anonymous)]

They didn't market it. THat's also part of the problem, which he's ignoring.

[(Anonymous)]

haha hi5 fellow xer.

I saw a couple of commercials since I still watch live tv on hulu, but all I remember about it was "based on a true story" (how many times has that been used as a lie before?) and paunchy Matt Damon plus the Star Wars guy I don't like. Guaranteed people five to ten years younger than me saw the exact same thing, and generations aside, none of us wanted any of that.

[(Anonymous)]

1 Early PR miscommunicated what the movie was about, and that turned a lot of potential viewers off.

2 People don't want something that depressing right now. They're not neccessarily looking for slapstick comedy, but they want something that at least is a bit over the top with some fun elements and not just gray and grim.

3 As someone else said, limited release. It's gone from theaters by the time you realize it's out.

4 Pandemic. Plenty of people still don't want to go to theaters, at least not unless it's a can't miss event. They're carefully rationing their movie going options. Dune, for example, is a movie people have waited decades to see a new decent version of and it's based on a long running, extremely popular, book series. It feels worth it to risk infection spending ten to twenty dollars on that instead of some thing about a depressing medieval court case.

Millenials are overworked and broke, industries controlled by older people need to stop blaming them for the fact that the product just isn't worth it. Also, we're in our 30s and early 40s, we're not children who need to be lectured at.

[sparklywalls]

Personally I'm just sick of older people and the media refusing to actually learn the generations beneath them and this was a perfect example of that.

I've got 40 beginning to loom over the horizon of my life like an unwelcome sunrise. I lived the first 15 or so years of my life without a home computer, never mind a mobile phone.

AND when I go to the cinema some of the worst people for scrolling through their phone because they can't stand to be off it for a whole pathetically short two hours are older than me. I don't think it's "those darn kids" who have the attention span problem. Everyone is susceptible to phone addiction it seems.

But yes you're right it's not an attention span thing. Dune has done ok and that has the whole "difficult to film" thing and a previous adaption attempt hanging over it. When I learned this particular film shows you a rape scene TWICE, it made me even less likely to want to see it and I didn't even know it was even out before this story.

[sabotabby]

I only heard of it because of Scott's comment.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like "millenial" is just the catch all term for teenagers for people 50+ at this point, who don't realise that lots of us are in our late twenties/mid thirties by now.

[(Anonymous)]

Also, most millennials *weren't* raised on cell phones-- I'm on the older side of millennial, to be fair, but I got my first cell phone when I was in college, and the most interesting thing the screen could do was snake. Even younger millennials, and ones from more affluent families, who got more advanced phones sooner in life than I did, we DIDN'T grow up watching movies on our phones.

Hey, show of hands, how many millennials remember Titanic being released on two VHS tapes? I know girls younger than me were watching and REwatching that one, stopping to change tapes halfway through, because they found the movie worth it.

[meadowphoenix]

I actually find this really cowardly because all the problems with finding an audience were front-loaded and anyone lurking on any comment boards would have been aware if it, and secondly they were always going to have a problem with Disney since Disney does not fuck with what Fox greenlighted like that. Have a backbone and shit on Disney, Ridley!

[(Anonymous)]

I saw a commercial, went and read the history of it, and noped out. I'd rather now the real history than some version of it, thanks.

Xennial here, for what it's worth.

[(Anonymous)]

I saw several ads for this and my takeaway was: a story I don't want to see, with styling (hair and costumes) I didn't care for, plus stilted acting, and some strange choices with accents. It looked like I would enjoy it much less than Kingdom of Heaven, which I found pretty mediocre.

[(Anonymous)]

And, honestly, I'm getting tired of the whole conversation where it all boils down to people being annoyed at some random old directors saying either too honest (hello, Scorsese) or stupid things (hello, Scott), like it matters a lot and affects them in any way. Just ignore it. He's obviously wrong here.

(On the other hand, the theatrical experience for adult-oriented films is dying at the moment and it's fucking sad to see (for me, I got the memo that most people don't care).)

And Dune isn't really a good example hasn't earned its budget back yet. 370 mln is not the break even point for a film that cost 165 mln and spent at least 50 (and probably closer to 100 mln) on promotion. It has proven to be financially viable as a long term project, but that's partially because the whole thing has been already paid off for the producers when it was bought for streaming and HBO Max really needs a franchise that could sustain additional spin-offs...

[(Anonymous)]

I don't really know why people care so much about what some random directoes have to say? Ridley Scott thinks his film wasn't seen by many people because they're too used to watching things on mobile phones? Whatever. He also seems to believe that millenials are teenagers, so... :) Really? Why were so many people annoyed by this that they kept talking about it on-line and someone even cared enough to make a secret about it...?