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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2021-12-18 03:59 pm

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Re: What's on your mind?

[personal profile] tabaqui 2021-12-19 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
What gets me about that business of calling out the 'younger generation' for not knowing how to do stuff is...the reason they *don't know* is because you fucking Boomers DIDN'T TEACH THEM!!

Nobody magically knows how to make a souffle or replace the transmission on their car or build a barn or whatever fucking bullshite they're whinging on about. It requires actual effort on *your* part, too, to teach these apparently all-important and life-defining skills.

ARGH.

Re: What's on your mind?

(Anonymous) 2021-12-19 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
c,f; the comment about teens not learning if people aren't teaching them.
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Re: What's on your mind?

[personal profile] pantswarrior 2021-12-19 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Usually the boomer rebuttal to that is "in MY day, we had home ec class!"

...Yeah, and now education budgets have been slashed by conservatives (largely made up of boomers), books are literally being taken from school libraries and burned, and the kids have to go through active shooter drills, which I'm sure leaves them totally at ease and ready to soak up knowledge during school. :P

And then there's the growing opinion among conservatives that education is "liberal indoctrination" and thus public schools are bad and not only should they not get any funding but you should take your kid out and homeschool them - meaning their kids aren't going to know anything they don't teach their kid about personally!

I am definitely not inclined to place any fault on people younger than me for stuff they don't know how to do yet. Life has been kicking them in the face all along. Gen X had our struggles, but not like the younger millennials and Gen Z have. Just... agggghhh. LEAVE THEM ALONE.
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Re: What's on your mind?

[personal profile] tabaqui 2021-12-19 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Man, ALL OF THIS. I had home ec, too - it taught me how to sew on a button and make a couple desserts, that was IT. It was a shite class.

It's like their nostalgia goggles are on so tight, they can't see a single, solitary shitty thing that Gen X, Z, and Millennials have had to live through.

And no, Boomers, it's not the great depression or a world war, it's just insidious, unrelenting, all-encompassing economic and societal GRIND that actually includes the longest running war in American history and the rise of fucking white supremacy and neo-Nazi bullshite and climate change and.....
*throws up hands*
Yeesh.

Re: What's on your mind?

(Anonymous) 2021-12-19 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
I actually completely agree with this, and I'm sort of just playing devil's advocate here, but I do feel like part of this is because a lot of Boomers were forced to learn certain practical like skills. Like their parents wanted them to help out around the house as much as possible, and made them learn what they needed to know in order to be of assistance. Or just made them learn it because, "One day you'll need it, and because I said so, now get in here." (Both my parents are boomers and this is definitely how they were raised, anyway.)

Whereas many people in the younger generations weren't forced to learn that stuff. Their parents may have offered to show them, but that attitude of "Forcing your kids to do things is good for them, and anyways you're the parent and they're the child so it doesn't matter whether it's good for them, they have to do it," had gone out of fashion with a lot of people. Which is, for the most part, a very good thing. I hate doctrinaire, because-I-said-so parenting, personally. But when it comes to learning how to do useful but boring life stuff, I know the only way I was going to learn it is if I was forced. Otherwise I wanted to be left alone to do whatever. If an adult asked me if I wanted to be taught how to cook something, or run a household appliance, or do a particular chore efficiently, I said no thank you. Like, no, I'm reading Buffy The Vampire Slayer fanfic and I don't want you to know about it, please just leave me alone.
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Re: What's on your mind?

[personal profile] tabaqui 2021-12-19 10:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's part of it for sure. The 'helicopter' parents and the ones who were totally hands off....

I, too, hate the 'because I said so' nonsense. How about tell your kids what and why, rather than just dictate to them?

My daughter would learn things when I made her, heh, but now she's on her own, she and her boyfriend message me all the time, asking how to do this or that. It's fun, actually, to see them learning new meals or whatever and being so proud... (They're both Gen Z.)

Re: What's on your mind?

(Anonymous) 2021-12-20 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
You sound like a good mom. :)
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Re: What's on your mind?

[personal profile] tabaqui 2021-12-20 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
Aw, thank you! :D