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Half-tempted to unfriend one of my aunts on Facebook even though generally I like her and she posts neat stuff.

Just at least once a day she also posts some stupid meme about how boomers are the greatest generation ever and no one else will ever be as cool, and/or millennials are useless fools who can't do anything for themselves. And I am so freaking tired of that, despite not being a millennial.

I confronted her finally on one of the dumb memes that claimed that millennials don't know how to cook and don't eat anything other than Burger King, and asked if this was satire because SERIOUSLY? She got all defensive and I had to point out to her that there are millennials that are 40, with kids and sometimes (very young) grandkids now. Do you really think that so many of them raised a family on just fast food? And she admitted she was talking about like... her grandkids and their friends who are in their early 20s. Meaning, not millennial.

And frankly even if she called out Gen Z on not knowing how to cook yet, screw that too. Screw all the stupid generational one-upmanship BS. Things can be different without being better or worse, much less sticking an entire generation's worth of people with the same insulting labels.

I thought the Greatest Generation was the greatest generation, I mean, it is right there in the name.

At least The Greatests, Silents, and earlier knew the value of convenience and were thrilled at the thought their descendants wouldn't be spending their lives trying to assemble meals from scratch. Only the Boomers could be nostalgic for compulsory hardships.

"Compulsory hardships"... what a great way to put it. I really liked a meme I saw awhile back about how "I bet my ancestors wouldn't think we're soft, they'd be happy to see that we were thriving, like 'look at that, our daughter can put an entire cinnamon stick in her tea which takes only a few minutes to brew'" and so on. =)

Also among the frequent themes is "when I was a kid, we knew where everyone was at by finding the yard that had all the bicycles in it, we knew it was time to come home when the streetlights came on, life will never be like that again because of cell phones and social media"

...I live in a neighborhood with a bunch of kids. LIFE IS LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW. Except that they do often have cell phones on them while they're riding their bikes and playing street hockey and... well, they're NEARBY while running through the sprinkler and drinking from the hose. ;) It helps keep them safe and the days go smoother when a parent can contact their kid whenever. I'm not sure why this is supposed to be a bad thing.

Where I grew up if we found a yard full of bikes, it meant we'd found the yard of whoever was nicking them. I remember that "we never used to lock our doors thing", which was true, because if we did then whoever was busting in would just break it down and then you were out a door as well as anything you were foolish enough to leave lying around. People were honest back then, they say, but it is easy to be honest when nobody has nothing worth nicking. I don't miss those days, not one fucking bit, and I'd be grateful if people would stop trying to bring them back.

And the everyone came home on their own before dark too, because if you stayed out after dark then it was a cert you'd get mugged. If you were lucky, a mugging was all it was too. My grandad said they used to call the area he grew up in Noah's Ark, because if you didn't travel in pairs then you didn't travel at all.

*nods* There is also a big difference on where one grew up too. My dad's family grew up in a little town that he observes "now has a population of 500 if you count the new trailer park nearby and also the cows". So sure they had an idyllic sort of life where everyone knew everyone else and no one had to worry too much if you didn't know where your kid was at dinnertime.

But as you note, that is not the universal experience, and I think that's what really pisses me off about these memes. The idea that "the way things were for me" is always viable and the best way for everyone to live their life.

This, omg.

Homer Simpson is canonically a Millennial these days, just saying.

Hahahah, that's right. I think I heard about that episode from a secret here, and asked my brother since he's stuck with the series. I guess it makes sense since they don't age, but I'd be kind of pissed off if I expected continuity (which I don't, it's the Simpsons). ;)

He’s also not real though. I don’t think I get what your comment is supposed to mean?

DA, but a middle-aged father of 3 canonically being a millennial definitely contradicts the “early twenties = millennials forever” attitude that seems to be a Facebook staple.

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks!

What gets me about that business of calling out the 'younger generation' for not knowing how to do stuff is...the reason they *don't know* is because you fucking Boomers DIDN'T TEACH THEM!!

Nobody magically knows how to make a souffle or replace the transmission on their car or build a barn or whatever fucking bullshite they're whinging on about. It requires actual effort on *your* part, too, to teach these apparently all-important and life-defining skills.

ARGH.

c,f; the comment about teens not learning if people aren't teaching them.

Usually the boomer rebuttal to that is "in MY day, we had home ec class!"

...Yeah, and now education budgets have been slashed by conservatives (largely made up of boomers), books are literally being taken from school libraries and burned, and the kids have to go through active shooter drills, which I'm sure leaves them totally at ease and ready to soak up knowledge during school. :P

And then there's the growing opinion among conservatives that education is "liberal indoctrination" and thus public schools are bad and not only should they not get any funding but you should take your kid out and homeschool them - meaning their kids aren't going to know anything they don't teach their kid about personally!

I am definitely not inclined to place any fault on people younger than me for stuff they don't know how to do yet. Life has been kicking them in the face all along. Gen X had our struggles, but not like the younger millennials and Gen Z have. Just... agggghhh. LEAVE THEM ALONE.

Man, ALL OF THIS. I had home ec, too - it taught me how to sew on a button and make a couple desserts, that was IT. It was a shite class.

It's like their nostalgia goggles are on so tight, they can't see a single, solitary shitty thing that Gen X, Z, and Millennials have had to live through.

And no, Boomers, it's not the great depression or a world war, it's just insidious, unrelenting, all-encompassing economic and societal GRIND that actually includes the longest running war in American history and the rise of fucking white supremacy and neo-Nazi bullshite and climate change and.....
*throws up hands*
Yeesh.

I actually completely agree with this, and I'm sort of just playing devil's advocate here, but I do feel like part of this is because a lot of Boomers were forced to learn certain practical like skills. Like their parents wanted them to help out around the house as much as possible, and made them learn what they needed to know in order to be of assistance. Or just made them learn it because, "One day you'll need it, and because I said so, now get in here." (Both my parents are boomers and this is definitely how they were raised, anyway.)

Whereas many people in the younger generations weren't forced to learn that stuff. Their parents may have offered to show them, but that attitude of "Forcing your kids to do things is good for them, and anyways you're the parent and they're the child so it doesn't matter whether it's good for them, they have to do it," had gone out of fashion with a lot of people. Which is, for the most part, a very good thing. I hate doctrinaire, because-I-said-so parenting, personally. But when it comes to learning how to do useful but boring life stuff, I know the only way I was going to learn it is if I was forced. Otherwise I wanted to be left alone to do whatever. If an adult asked me if I wanted to be taught how to cook something, or run a household appliance, or do a particular chore efficiently, I said no thank you. Like, no, I'm reading Buffy The Vampire Slayer fanfic and I don't want you to know about it, please just leave me alone.

Yeah, that's part of it for sure. The 'helicopter' parents and the ones who were totally hands off....

I, too, hate the 'because I said so' nonsense. How about tell your kids what and why, rather than just dictate to them?

My daughter would learn things when I made her, heh, but now she's on her own, she and her boyfriend message me all the time, asking how to do this or that. It's fun, actually, to see them learning new meals or whatever and being so proud... (They're both Gen Z.)

You sound like a good mom. :)

Aw, thank you! :D

Ask her if she brews her own garum, or whether she is one of those lazy quitters who buys it pre made in the forum?

People have been moaning about declining standards in cooking since Cicero.

Hahaha. Yes, I saw a post some time ago that displayed complaints people made about "media will leave our children hopelessly addicted and unable to take care of themselves" going back to things like... the printing press making BOOKS readily available and affordable to the public. Same exact things these memes are saying about cell phones/google now.

Really drives home that... well, it's not so much that there's nothing new under the sun, because there is. But then there's nothing new under the sun that fundamentalists can think of to say about it.

I'll make my own butter, I'll make my own bread, but if I brew my own garum my neighbors will put me on a prescription list.

That sounds annoying as hell. I think older people sometimes feel defensive about their age and how badly they've screwed things up that they look for ways to feel superior to younger generations.

All of this! As a Gen X’er, I really wish this stupid “generation war” would end, especially the constant Boomer BS.

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