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Ever After is my favorite Cinderella adaptation, but it seems like most people grew up with either the Rodgers and Hammerstein film with Brandy, or the Disney ones, and no one remembers this version.

I've always been under the impression that Ever After is pretty popular? Though it's one of those movies I always forget how much I like until I see it's on TV and start watching it.

I love EverAfter. Her dress is so beautiful and that scene has stayed with me since I was a child. I really like Brandy's adaptation as well, but Everafter is my fave.

Ever After is my favorite too, although I also really like the live action Disney one.

I thought it was pretty good, but something about Drew Barrymore generally grates on me (I think she has some mannerisms that remind me of mannerisms I don't like in myself) and so I don't rewatch the movies that I like that she is in as often as I might otherwise. But I like Ever After and I also like a bunch of other adaptions like Ella Enchanted, If the Shoe Fits (TV movie with Jennifer Grey and Rob Lowe), A Cinderella Story, Another Cinderella Story, and Disney's 1950 animated Cinderella. I did not care for Cinderfella or the second Rodgers and Hammerstein musical, Cinderella (1965).

I would've loved Ever After if it hadn't fallen so hard into the "she's not like the Other Girls" trap. You could say that Cinderella is inherently like that to an extent, if you see the stepsisters as representations of "other girls," but Ever After really pushed that angle in addition to making her a former tomboy who grew up playing with the boys.

AYRT--the dark-haired stepsister is very stereotypically feminine and parrots bits of etiquette lessons but still ends up helping her stepsister and getting a happy ending (or at least away from her mom and sister and with a nice guy who's into her), plus she and her love interest are both fat, which was awesome.

And the Cinderella character doesn't come across as denigrating other women. She doesn't consider herself better than the other peasant women working alongside her (or the men); she may be better educated, but she's still a peasant. She's not a fan of most nobles, but since the ones she sees everyday are assholes or in the case of the dark haired stepsister passively letting her be abused, it's hard to blame her.

So yeah, I guess technically the film is chock full of the trope (which I don't mind as much as you) but it's well done. The version of NLOG that gets on my nerves is the one where the NLOG character is actively judgmental of women and feminine characters for not being like she is.

And I'd say the Disney versions are worse because the stepsisters are basically vapid caricatures of femininity contrasted with Cinderella's naturally perfect performance of femininity; she "wins" the hot prince because she's beautiful and kind and demure and passive, not ugly and mean and prideful and ambitious and scheming like her stepsisters.

(I haven't seen the animated sequel that gives one stepsister characterization other than "cardboard bully cutout" and a happy ending with, idk, a baker? But Ever After did it first.)

There were two animated Cinderella sequels. The first sequel was where the stepsister ends up with the baker, it was cute. And then the second sequel (third movie) retconned it for some reason so that they could pretend she never had character development or pined for anyone else but the prince, only to briefly show us in the credits that the pairing wasn't forgotten? So weird.

I haven't seen Ever After in years, but I agree. While Danielle was a tomboy, I don't remember her particularly hating on femininity and complaining about having to wear women's clothes or anything like that. She wasn't awkward about wearing her mother's gowns. There was no makeover scene where she grudgingly learns how to be feminine. She even dressed up to visit the castle all on her own well before she gets help dressing up for the ball, so she's perfectly capable of performing upper class femininity when it suits her and doesn't act like she dislikes it.

Maybe there was one point where she laments not being a man, I don't remember, but her primary motivation for much of the movie was getting control of her father's farm so it was probably more of an issue of property rights than "girl stuff is dumb."

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