[ SECRET POST #5489 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5489 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

03. https://i.imgur.com/tGBXCk1.jpeg

[hey_hey_hey]

You sound like the olds who miss LiveJournal's heyday.

[(Anonymous)]

Livejournal was just the best, though. It came along at precisely the correct time.

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP, but hell yeah I miss LJ's heyday. IMO it was the perfect balance of social and personal, public and private.

There are aspects of tumblr I love a lot. It's really, really good at generating memes and jokes (I unironically love tumblr humor and memes don't at me), and it's a very good platform for getting your fanworks in front of a broader audience even when you're not a BNF. Plus, obviously, it's a decent way of collecting and curating fannish content you enjoy. But there are also a lot of things I strongly dislike about tumblr, and a lot of ways that I feel like it's had a negative effect on fandom.

I'm not even on twitter, so I can't speak to that corner of fandom, but from what I know of twitter, honestly, fannish twitter sounds like all my least favorite parts of fandom, distilled.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

right?? I even miss standalone shrines and webrings but LJ at least still had the content with an easier to find and archive system than a standalone with awful coding. I'll happily be a fandom old who misses the LJ era, forever mad that fandom didn't migrate to DW with the rpers.

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[(Anonymous)]

It was a lot easier to make friends on lj and mailing lists for me, and I didn't feel like I had to walk on eggs every moment. Plus, the trolls and genuine assholes could be and were ejected from moderated communities.

Twitter fandom sounds like Hell Online to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Screw Livejournal, go back to Usenet. Screw Usenet, go back to fanzines and APAs.

[(Anonymous)]

Livejournal was so good. All it needed was a bit of tweaking to make it perfect. Alas, it got tweaked in the wrong direction.

[(Anonymous)]

I definitely miss Livejournal. I don't mind Tumblr because at this point I'm just waiting to see what finally kills it while enjoying the many fandoms and interesting posts at the same time.
But I use to comment and make friends with people a lot more on LJ than on Tumblr - plus it was immensely better at archiving posts (and easier to look for specific posts); whereas Tumblr's tagging system barely worked even before the recent ios nonsense. Also there's certainly a lot more fear of people who will go out their way to attack people online for the dumbest things that people can always manipulate into being a just cause (oh wait you read a fictional book where a child dies and you didn't automatically hate it? -> that means you support child endangerment *proceeds to misinform while counting on half the people being too lazy to fact check anything*).

Even with the drama that did exist on LJ, it was contained and involved people who were in the know of the drama - whereas twitter and tumblr make it really easy for people to just wander into any part of a fandom without context and proceed to misinform and go into some kind of moral panic because they got bored.

[dancingmouse]

Same here. I try to be open and tolerant of new Fandom, but I feel like Fandom Big Brother is always watching and ready to jump on you if you make one wrong move, which sucks the fun out of everything.

[(Anonymous)]

That's suckist. Check yourself.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. I feel like I'm walking on eggs all the time.

[(Anonymous)]

Great image choice. I still have that mousepad in my closet.

[(Anonymous)]

man, we used to have so many _wank communities. where was this nonsense free time everyone's reminiscing about?

[pantswarrior]

Oh there was always wank, yes. And the funny stuff (as opposed to the dumb/depressing stuff) was easier to document and laugh about in the LJ format, IMO.

[(Anonymous)]

There's always been wank, but I do think wank functions differently on modern social media. The scale of wank is totally different compared to what it used to be.

[(Anonymous)]

The wank didn't trigger an algorithm back then.

[(Anonymous)]

Wank communities were for laughing at people being wanky about stupid things. If an someone acted like an antishipper, for instance, they would get put on a wank community and laughed at by the rest of fandom for acting like fictional characters have rights that need protecting. Nobody would defend them. They might throw a fit and flounce, and either stay away until they matured a bit or come back and try again only to be laughed away again. That's how it should be.

[(Anonymous)]

Anyone who says fandom was always this bad hasn't been in fandom very long. They've heard stories of the worst of the worst of old fandom from other people who read about it on fandom wikis. Thing is, those were the exceptions. Now the worst of the worst is the norm.

[(Anonymous)]

This. So much this. Yes, bullying sometimes happened, but it wasn't the rule in most communities, and the ones where it was quickly became ghost towns.

Now, not only is bullying the norm, a lot of people even see it as the morally right thing to do, over petty fandom nonsense like what other people ship or which character they like best.

[(Anonymous)]

no true scotsman

[(Anonymous)]

FUCK DEM ANTIS!

[(Anonymous)]

Yep! Unironically.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't been in fandom (nor alive, at that) during Livejournal's heyday, but I do feel a nostalgia for the unlived whenever it's mentioned. If it was anything like Dreamwidth - which, at least in the code and form and function, it must've been, and, from my experience, those things heavily weight in on how a platform could/should be used - I think I would've loved it.

It must be conceded that, at any point during the history of any human culture, there were conflicts. There was wank. There were assholes. However, on Dreamwidth and LJ, it's so easier to avoid them; the granularity of the Access/friending system, for one, prevents a lot of wank that Tumblr, for example, can't.

Oh! And threaded comments. May I ask when even did they fall out of fashion in fandom? In any community space, they're a must - how else are you supposed to see a discussion's entire context and span? In a way, I pity the part of my generation growing up on Tumblr. (And, while it isn't the nicest place, I'm glad my first exposure to fandom was on Reddit.)

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like I'm the opposite of OP.

My time online doesn't kill my ability to appreciate new fandoms. I know tumblr is sometimes evil and deliberately crass, but it’s also a great place to discover and explore extreme niche interests.