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[ SECRET POST #5513 ]

⌈ Secret Post #5513 ⌋

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What's wrong with recognizing one's talent and being positive about it?

This is beyond positive and reads like exhibitionism and also feels really damn ableist in the "anxiety can be willed away by self improvement" variety

How on earth are you getting that from someone saying ‘I know I’m good at writing’ like clearly your reading comprehension isn’t all that anon since that’s the reach you’ve made from this.

Okay OP, keep self-fellating.

Yeah, we get it, you're nice and edgy and properly self-loathing. Very cool.

ah, yes, here your show your ableism yet again, OP. Aren't you a precious "not like other girls" type person?

How is that comment 'ableism'? No, really - I don't get it at all.

Implying self-loathing is always a choice and that people who have it don't hate it.

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(Anonymous) - 2022-02-09 05:44 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2022-02-09 23:48 (UTC) - Expand

Throwing the word ableism around doesn’t make you right anon and it’s somewhat funny that you’re accusing 2 separate people of being the OP because they’re not agreeing with you, or are confused about how you’ve managed to get a serious accusation from someone simply having pride in their own skills.

nayrt

Why do I get the feeling ayrt is the same person who keeps getting on people's tits about using the word "lame"?

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(Anonymous) - 2022-02-09 07:27 (UTC) - Expand

nayrt

Wait, are you doing that thing again where you're having entire conversations in your head, and then basing your response on the absolute worst thing you can imagine the other side saying to you?

How's that working out for you?

I mean, they literally open with, "Teehee, I can't relate to all those OTHER writers who're too busy WORRYING while I ACTIVELY IMPROVE AND KNOW I AM OBJECTIVELY GOOD, like, duh dummies????" as if anxiety and stuff like that is rational.

‘I’m sorry for them, that must suck’

Literally in the secret, acknowledging that it can’t be easy to deal with that but they don’t personally, which is something I understand because I don’t suffer with worry or anxiety over my fic either. It’s not an insult to others to recognise something is a common problem but one you don’t personally resonate with.

As someone who suffers from anxiety, dude, shut up. Finding something about yourself to view positively IS a legitimate self-help tip because it's like training wheels for your brain to start thinking positively in general. Does mental illness make that hard? Absolutely! But it's still an OBJECTIVELY helpful thing, no matter what your starting point is.

Seconding this, as another person who suffers from anxiety.

Why would you assume that people worry about their work being well-receive have anxiety? Anxiety is a clinical condition that I admit I never fully understood until I experienced it and was like, "whoa, holy shit, I'm afraid to drive my car now," among other things.

Fearing your fic is mediocre or kinda sucks isn't an anxiety symptom, though a person with anxiety can feel that way, they might not necessarily.

Because a lot of people who participate in fandom have anxiety and it doesn't just cover your driving or other Big Things, dumbass. People without anxiety aren't gonna fret THAT much over how others perceive them and their work.

nayrt

Why don't you go take a nap and let the adults talk? Feel free to return when you learn how to have an actual civil discussion instead of being hostile and resorting to name-calling.

I have perfectionist tendencies and do worry a lot about how my work is perceived when I post it, but I don't have anxiety about it.

A lot of people in fandom like to act like everybody has a mental illness, when that's just not true.

Or maybe, just maybe, a lot of people have mental illness because we live in a soulless capitalistic hellscape that commodifies our everything. You know. A thing that's been studied and shown multiple times.

But no, people are just fakey-fakers and only a small handful of people have Twu Mental Illness.

I bet you spend time on r/illnessfakers or whatever.

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(Anonymous) - 2022-02-09 22:45 (UTC) - Expand

No it isn't. "reads like" "feels like": iow you just pulled that out of your ass and want to attack OP for your own issues.

In my very long experience, people who are this smug are nowhere near as good as they think they are. They plateau out at decent mediocrity because they get lost in their own smugness.

The truly brilliant writers tend to end up being the ones for whom nothing they write is good enough, because they never stop striving even when they reach a level others would consider good.

No, no. I get where secret OP is coming from. I don't think it's necessarily the same as thinking you have no flaws in your writing. I still think of rewriting or changing details of or things I could've added to works I genuinely feel good and confident about. "It could've been even better!" doesn't been it isn't already good and I can't pat myself on the back for that.

Recognizing that you have skill doesn't equal thinking everything you type out is automatically gold which doesn't need any touching up. There's a very big difference between going "you know what, I'm good at the thing I do and put a lot of effort in and have spent a bunch of years practicing" and the types who want to dox their Goodreads reviews.

+1000

AYRT There's a big difference between having pride in yourself and being this conceited. The anon below who remarked they were proud of their stories and how they'd managed to improve? That's having pride in your accomplishments. This secret though is far beyond that.

I have no idea where the anon upthread though got ableism from. I wasn't getting at that at all.

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