[ SECRET POST #5528 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5528 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

I could have lived without seeing that manip. I really could have.

Hermione's my fandom bicycle, but only once she's older and working for the dept of Magic Creatures or what have you. Possibly disappointed/content with her life and no longer with Ron (amicable parting preferably). So that's really the only time I could ship her with Snape. Actually, I think I've only read their pairing once and it was actually pretty good (she's grown and reflecting on his bullshit; he's still on his bullshit to some degree...anyway). And it wouldn't be very nice (much like when I ship her with Lucius or Draco, although the latter tends to end up nicer).

[(Anonymous)]

"I could have lived without seeing that manip. I really could have. "

Yeah, I had a shudder I couldn't suppress either.

[(Anonymous)]

LMAO! I just noticed the "edit." That'll teach me to look up F!S before coffee.

[(Anonymous)]

The cruelty is the point.

(Sorry!)

I think people ship it because it's wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

I think people ship it for a lot of reasons. For instance I think a lot of people probably ship it because they want to have sex with Alan Rickman.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, that's true.

I find zero people in this cast fuckable.

[(Anonymous)]

I was a Snape/Hermione shipper back in the day and although I liked his performance in the movies, my mental Snape never looked like him. He was younger and uglier.

[feotakahari]

I just don’t see the chemistry. I feel like the interaction that best sums up their “relationship” was when she had a magical accident and he made fun of her teeth.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay. You do realize they're not real people, right, Judgy McJudginess?

[(Anonymous)]

I've read two or three Snarry's. The writing quality is just too good.

I say we need more problematic fics in general... I've read alot of fucked up angst in my teen years in 00s, and it was good.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven’t been in the fandom for years and even when I was, I never personally interacted with anyone who shipped it, but I always sort of assumed a lot of people were into it because they identified with Hermione and had the hots for Snape.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, that was very true of people I knew who were into it. The When I Kissed the Teacher Yahoogroup was very much about that.

[(Anonymous)]

This came up in the thread when this was submitted and I'm still curious.

Why is it creepier than Snarry? Snape has an emotionally fraught history with Harry's parents, not Hermione's.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't necessarily think it IS inherently creepier than Snarry, but I can think of some reasons people might cite for why it is. Snape's history as a death eater and Hermione's being of muggle parentage, for one. Her extremely strong desire to gain the recognition and respect of authority figures and him being one such authority figure, for another. Snape may have way more power, but based on the books it seems clear that Harry will absolutely give Snape's bullshit right back to him if he needs to--while I don't necessarily get that same impression of ready defiance from Hermione. And it's not because I think Hermione is weak, but because, at least as a teenager, she just cares much more than Harry does about things like rules and authority figures and proving herself.

Also, let's be real, whether rightly or wrongly, many people react more strongly to the idea of adult man/underage girl, due to all sorts of complicated real-world factors.

Also also, many female fanfic readers and writers experience toxic and alarming dynamics in slash ships with slightly less acute intensity than they experience those same dynamics in het fics. For many female readers/writers, dark stuff just hits a little too close to home when it's het.

[(Anonymous)]

Good points, I totally see how someone could argue all of that.

I was a Snape/Hermione shipper back in the day, and as I recall from most of the fic I read, there was a lot of it being a power fantasy about Hermione getting an antagonistic authority figure to learn to respect her brilliance and admit he was wrong about a lot - and also about Hermione realizing that authority isn't all that and sometimes rules are just hindrances to what you really need to do (or who you really want to do). Often involved Hermione getting a somewhat morally gray herself (as she does in the books to some extent).

There was a lot of romanticized Snape Manor aristocracy stuff before we learned that he was a working-class half-blood with a chip on his shoulder about it, which was fun, but the truth is actually a more interesting character.

I'm female, and I didn't really feel what you're describing (though I certainly see how others do). Hermione was mostly our viewpoint character, and she was acting on her own desires.

[(Anonymous)]

Because Harry is kinda an asshole too. It is still creepy, but Harry goes out his way to antagonise Snape as well as the reverse. I don't care if the assholes get together. See also Snape/Ron and Snape/Draco.

[hey_hey_hey]

Don't worry, thanks to her overuse of the Time-Turner, Hermione is almost 20 by fifth year.

Still questioning this.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm okay with student/teacher fic and the creepiness inherent in it, the taboo of it is why I find it kind of interesting.

But Hermione/Snape wouldn't even make my top ten for creepiest. Still not sure which would be first: student/Umbridge or student/Barty-Crouch-Jr.-as-Moody or student/Quirrell+Voldemort. Then somewhere below that would be pairing students with the Carrows, Dumbledore, and maybe Lockhart (given his penchant for memory spells). Then with Snape, I would say Harry/Snape would be in first place because of how Snape feels about James Potter, Lily Potter, and Sirus Black and how he perceives Harry as a consequence; the bullying; the occulmency 'lessons'; what Snape did with the prophesy; the death-eater thing, given how his master has specifically targeted Harry; the spy thing, given how Dumbledore has specifically 'guided' Harry; the vow. Then there's the stuff on the Harry side of the equation (like his treatment by the Dursleys and his traumas), which would be an issue with any relationship, but would maybe be compounded by his and Snape's heretofore contentiousness.

Re: Still questioning this.

[(Anonymous)]

My #1 rating for creepiest teacher/student pairing in HP is Umbridge/Harry. Because she is such a soft uwu authoritarian (I just play by the rules! I wear pink and like kittens, how dare you think there's anything bad in my heart? I just believe in the social order and I want to make sure students are protected from subversive ideas)

She sure got flushed and heated when she was torturing him though.

Re: Still questioning this.

[pantswarrior]

....The examples you give as creepier are actually somewhat appealing to me because they are in fact creepier, and intentional creepyness is pretty much the only way I could get into the "trope" of teacher/student.

Make it creepy. So so very creepy. The creepier the better, and clear that it's creepy and wrong. Write it as horror rather than happy sexytimes and I would be all over this kind of stuff. :D

[philstar22]

All Snape pairings are creepy. He's just generally a creep. The one that always gets me is Giles/Buffy. I get that teacher/student is a popular pairing type, though it is a massive squick for me. But Giles has always read as super parental to me, so this one in particular really squicks me out.

[(Anonymous)]

....why?

Like, sure, I get that people may find teacher/student pairings creepy. Totally fair. But why is this particular one so obviously "the creepiest" that it requires no explanation?

[(Anonymous)]

Just guessing but probably it's because Snape is a magical racist who is abusive and racist towards Hermione?

[(Anonymous)]

DA

But we don't see any evidence at all during the timeline of the books that he still holds those beliefs. He's working against the Death Eaters the entire time.