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Forgive my ignorance, but I thought one of the key factors of DID was that the primary personality was initially unaware of the others, and was also unable to communicate with them? This secret is giving me more otherkin vibes....

But yeah, I might be completely wrong in my knowledge.

Different multiples report different degrees of awareness. I’m not multiple myself, so I’m going by their descriptions.

And yeah, a lot of multiples get into mysticism and parallel-universe stuff. I don’t believe in it, but I don’t think it’s that much crazier than some of the shit Christians have told me.

I'm going from the psychology unit I learned, but it was ten plus years ago and god knows the medical profession hasn't got a great track record with mental health so yeah.

On the one hand, I wouldn't put it past the medical profession at the time to have been mistaken. On the other, I wouldn't put it past kids on social media to lie about this stuff for attention. Hmm.

“Kids” is a bit much. My first multiple mutual was born in 1988. They’ve shown up as an adult at meetups for multiples. They got interviewed by a mainstream news mag once, and the interviewer met with an adult. The other multiple mutuals I’ve had have been pretty young, it’s true, but I don’t think that invalidates them.

(I’m reluctant to name names due to the harassment potential. A quote from the news mag: “I’m a fucking tranny-faggot-lunatic existing in public. It wouldn’t be a matter of if I get Gamergated — it’d be a matter of when.”)

Difficult to know the truth of it. People with DID, well it tends to be messy. This sll seems very neat and more like a narrative they've built for themselves. Who knows anyway.

Wasn't expecting you to name names? That's absolutely okay that you want to protect their privacy.

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They just beautifully demonstrated the "doing it for attention" part.

BTW, the first multiple mutual I had wasn’t fond of this language of “primary” personalities. They said whichever one singletons interacted with first tended to get assumed to be the real one, and all the others were treated as fakes. (The earliest of them never woke up from an assault, so it’s just the “alters” left now.)

It's basically this generation's otherkin, yeah.

That's very much the vibe I'm getting for sure.

oh it straight up is. So many of the ones I've run across like to claim they have "fictives" i.e. fictional characters among their "headmates" or "alters." Some like to claim they have REAL LIVE PEOPLE among their "alters," how that is supposed to work I haven't a clue. The most facepalmy ones are the ones who claim they have gay versions of straight male celebrities living in their heads with them

It's supposed to work via alternate realities, or something, last I heard.

ah! like the Snapewives

There's like six people in one discord I'm in who all claim to be multiples and it is so tiring, one gets a new 'fictive' conveniently every time they find a new fandom. They keep having their fictives from the canon the discord is related to chime in whenever people are talking about headcanons saying things like 'I would never do that' and it just shuts down all discussion, I hate it.

GOD yeah that's annoying

I think it makes a nice narrative arc to go "there's a Main Character, who is the original/primary personality, who doesn't know about their headmates -> MC has mysterious experiences which lead to the dramatic discovery of the headmates -> MC and headmates start in conflict, but learn to understand each other and cooperate, possibly with the help of a Heroic Therapist -> MC and headmates integrate into a single personality, which is the ideal ending because it represents Peak Cooperation."

So that's the kind of story that gets popular and well-known -- Sibyl, Three Faces of Eve, etc.

IRL multiple systems tend to describe their lives in messier, less-linear terms. (For one thing, there's not necessarily a "primary personality." And cooperation doesn't tend to meld them together in a single person, it's an ongoing process of negotiation...)

Anyway, I also keep an eye out for good fiction about multiples, so I'm definitely gonna check this manga out!

I haven't actually seen any of those. I was thinking more about the case studies we did at college.

People who write case studies are also susceptible to the appeal of nice narrative arcs!

Wasn't Sybil proven to have been faking?

Eh, I was talking about Sybil-the-popular-narrative, which I'm sure was streamlined and prettified from the real life of the person behind it. Same with Eve, I know I've read her memoir and it's very different from the way her therapist-biographers portrayed her.

A quick glance at Wikipedia suggests "Sybil had some skeevy/unethical therapists, her story got sensationalized for the media, and there were various cases of people who claimed they could prove things about her mental state but oops we lost the evidence." Not sure I buy that she was faking anything, just that her reality got exploited pretty far.

Some of the psychiatrists studying multiplicity have been considerably nuttier than the patients. Look up Colin Ross sometime. Dude thinks he can shoot chi out of his eyeballs.

that is nuts, but to be fair it sounds, at worst, equal in absurdity with people believing that they have gay versions of actual rl straight people living in their heads with them

Just keep in mind that “good” is relative here. It’s about a stable multiple who isn’t evil and doesn’t get “cured,” and that’s a bar that doesn’t get cleared often.

It definitely isn't!

I would've put United States of Tara in that category for the first (iirc) 3 seasons, but they had to go give her a surprise new Evil Murderous Alter in season 4 :(

One of the guiding principles I had with the Neineikura "siblings" was "they already know all about each other and none of them are evil, their conflicts are normal bickering-housemates interpersonal stuff, just with the extra complication that they're stuck together."

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