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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-03-28 07:27 pm

[ SECRET POST #5561 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5561 ⌋

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Re: Celebrity/media news

(Anonymous) 2022-03-29 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
The thing is, Chris Rock was in a very literal sense doing what he was paid to do. I agree that the joke was in bad taste but his job was to tell spicy jokes to engender controversy and juice the ratings. And the Oscars really succeeded beyond their wildest dreams in that regard.
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Re: Celebrity/media news

[personal profile] dancingmouse 2022-03-29 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I thought it was either a big overreaction, or, just my theory, it was completely staged and planned from the beginning.

Re: Celebrity/media news

(Anonymous) 2022-03-29 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
It was a bad joke and I get why Smith would be mad (assuming it wasn't staged). Just, also think people should probably be getting mad at the Oscars themselves here, not just Rock and Smith.

Also I'm not ready to say it was staged, but if incidents like this and the Moonlight thing keep happening at the Oscars, at some point it's going to start getting mighty suspicious.

Re: Celebrity/media news

(Anonymous) 2022-03-29 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
It definitely wasn't staged. When he won Best Actor he tearfully apologized in his speech to the Academy and his fellow nominees - but not to Rock. Today he issued a formal statement of apology to Rock. Also the Academy released info that there might be some kind of investigation and disciplinary measure.

Honest human error. The Moonlight thing - that was on Beatty and Dunaway, IMO. Beatty knew right away something wasn't right with the card he was handed (It was the one for Best Actress, had the category name and Emma Stone's name on it, right there. He should have said something.)

I get that it's all showbiz and all - and the lines get blurred, Amy Schumer's apparent diss of Kirsten Dunst really was a staged skit that everyone was in on, it just landed really badly right after the Smith incident. But for such a big-budget polished production they actually do screw up more than you'd think.

Re: Celebrity/media news

(Anonymous) 2022-03-29 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed.

Re: Celebrity/media news

(Anonymous) 2022-03-29 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
"investigation and disciplinary measure"? what the hell is there to investigate? they know what happened, we all saw what happened

as for disciplinary measure... i've seen talk that they should rescind that oscar and that's the start of a slope that's quickly followed by harvey weinstein / roman polanski / john wayne / etc

Re: Celebrity/media news

(Anonymous) 2022-03-30 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
They should definitely not rescind his Oscar and I don't think they will. Like you said, if they're going to start taking Oscars back over bad behavior there are a LOT of people who've done a LOT worse than Smith.

I expect a temporary suspension from the Academy or something like that, if anything.

(Pure speculation but I would not be shocked if Rock's public statement is along the lines of "I accept his apology and I kind of deserved it."

Re: Celebrity/media news

(Anonymous) 2022-03-29 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
He was getting paid to make jokes, not pick on someone for their disability in a forum where he didn't expect to get any real pushback.

Re: Celebrity/media news

(Anonymous) 2022-03-29 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
He was getting paid to make jokes, and I think specifically to make jokes that would be a little outrageous and push the boundaries. He went too far - it was absolutely a shitty joke to make. But I think the Oscars wanted controversy and set the situation up for that and they got it.

Re: Celebrity/media news

(Anonymous) 2022-03-29 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Alopecia is a medical condition, but it is not a disability.

Re: Celebrity/media news

(Anonymous) 2022-03-29 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
So are cancer and anxiety, but it's not cool to make fun of people for their medical conditions.

Re: Celebrity/media news

(Anonymous) 2022-03-29 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt - it is often linked to lupus and other autoimmune disorders so it is really usually a warning sign that worse is yet to come. it was for me.