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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-04-07 04:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #5571 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5571 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-04-07 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
For me it wasn't the slap so much as how deliberate it was - it didn't look at all to me like a moment of lost temper at a joke, it was more "laugh at lame joke, take a second, realize my wife isn't happy, and then saunter down to smack, saunter back and then yell profanity". If it had been an immediate lost-temper response to a very nasty "joke", I could be on team "I'm not saying he should've slapped him... but I understand". But as it was... it was seriously bizarre.

Also - I get defending your spouse from violence, and standing up for your spouse when insulted or maligned. But this was escalation, not defense. [I mean, ideally, a comedian makes a joke you don't like about your spouse, you make one right back at the comedian - that's still "rude" but it's same-level rude.]

So, as it is, I'm far more "I'm not saying he should've made a joke about her haircut... but I understand."

(Anonymous) 2022-04-07 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
It isn't a haircut, it is a medical condition she has and the guy telling the joke had previously done a whole routine on her medical condition too.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-07 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
This. Ayrt calling Jada’s alopecia a “haircut” shows that they’re more ignorant about everything than they think, and probably should have done more research. Especially before choosing to defend Rock over his joke. If it was just a haircut, slapping someone over joking about it would have been such an unthinkably bad response, more than it already was, and it would have warranted all of the scandal over Will slapping him. But it wasn’t just a haircut, and that’s what makes Rock’s joke, and the previous whole routine about Jada’s medical condition, as tasteless as it is.

Granted, slapping Rock over this, especially on live TV was still absolutely the wrong thing to do. Even with the context around Jada’s medical condition, violence is definitely not the answer. And Will has apologized to everyone for that now, including Chris Rock. Whether certain people believe it or not, he has at least done that. So I don’t get why people are still making a big to do about this. Especially because everyone’s already discussed everything about it to death by now.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
"Ayrt calling Jada’s alopecia a “haircut” shows that they’re more ignorant about everything than they think"

... why would someone know about that if they don't follow celebrity gossip? I had never heard of alopecia before all of this and I certainly didn't know she had it. I know some women with shaved/partially shaved heads who have their hair that way because they genuinely like the look and I thought it was the same for Jada. It's not like that's an all that uncommon hairstyle these days.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Googling the event makes that clear, hence my “they should do more research”. I had already heard of alopecia before this, but only by chance. I’m not trying to insult ayrt, everyone is ignorant of things at different points, me included. Hell, definitely me included.

This is beyond the realm of celebrity gossip by this point, unfortunately, so I don’t know why you phrased it like that. Seriously, every story covering this mentions Jada’s alopecia. And then the next step would be Googling alopecia.

...And I never said this wasn’t an uncommon hairstyle, just that this isn’t a haircut? And that framing it as Rock insulting a haircut is incorrect? Because that would be a completely different matter to a medical condition.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Why would it occur to them to google it. "Gee maybe there's a reason he was so upset that's more serious than just someone making fun of his wife's haircut" is a hell of a lot of benefit of doubt.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
DA Because every single article about it has mentioned alopecia.

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(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
if they don't follow celebrity gossip why are they commenting on celebrity gossip?
abloobloo everyone should get to make their ignorant ass comments and not get called out on it because not shitting out the first thought you have on a topic is hard :((((

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
There are many people who do not actively follow celebrity gossip, but watch the Oscars. Or just watch the news. Or go on social media ever.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
This was kind of all over the major news sites for a while so...

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
It isn't a haircut

It literally is, though. It's a very short haircut, the likes of which she only has because of her alopecia. But it's not the alopecia giving her a brush cut; it's the brush cut. Rock's joke wasn't even about her alopecia. It was about her brush cut. The joke wasn't, "Harr harr, Jada Pinkett Smith totally has the [balding character] role on lock," it was, "Harr harr JPS totally has the [shaved-head character] role on lock." Not the same thing at all, and it's weird that everyone is acting like it is.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
But the fact is, she only has this hairstyle because of her alopecia, and there’s no doubt Chris Rock knew that. Especially because he’s joked about her hair before and gotten backlash for it.

It’s honestly kind of bad faith to split hairs like this when it’s not really contradicting anything, just correcting someone over semantics.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 09:24 am (UTC)(link)
DA but... "split hairs"? Pff.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh shit, I didn’t even realize that when I wrote it lol!

(Anonymous) 2022-04-07 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree about the deliberateness, that's the bit that made me stop. I don't think he deserves a trial by media, but he still deliberately and consciously hit someone - even though the joke was punching down at his wife's medical condition, it wasn't an appropriate or equivalent response.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-07 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
"laugh at lame joke, take a second, realize my wife isn't happy, and then saunter down to smack, saunter back and then yell profanity"

honestly, i'm not entirely convinced jada didn't put him up to it ("how dare you laugh, either make this right or you're sleeping on the couch tonight or i'll blow another one of your son's friends or whatever") and i'm worried i come out thinking she's the biggest heel of the night, which sucks because she was, you know, the target of the joke in the first place

(Anonymous) 2022-04-07 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
“i'll blow another one of your son's friends or whatever"

This whole post is the same kind of YIKES I’ve been seeing on YouTube and Reddit, but this part is especially bad. It’s an open relationship, and you’re still trying to use this to further shame her? Gross.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
DA but it's more the fact of her lover's age that's in question than the openness of the relationship.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
DA but I agree with AYRT's read, it felt like mostly the open relationship, more so than the age being used to shame him. The age bit is also weird, though.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I admit that part is a bit...uncomfortable.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
August Alsina? He's a grown ass man, almost 30. There has to a be a point where someone is old enough to escape the concern trolling if they're attracted to an older person, and he's well past it.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, I don't mind the age gap, but screwing around with your son's friend is really trashy. Have some respect for your son, damn.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
This is by far the worst take I've seen and sadly way too common. Jada is the ONLY person in this situation that didn't do anything wrong except not laughing and smiling at a tasteless joke about her medical condition. Cameras were on them & none of them showed her saying anything to Will.

(Anonymous) 2022-04-08 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
This

(Anonymous) 2022-04-07 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
+1000