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[ SECRET POST #5609 ]

⌈ Secret Post #5609 ⌋

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Ehhhh idk. You don't necessarily need to add literal MSG powder to everything in order to get a certain type of taste because there are several ingredients that include MSG already (soy sauce, for example).

Yeah, but if you want depth without too much soy, then there is no substitute.

Soy isn't the only ingredient with included MSG though.

But it was the one specifically called out. Soy sauces do have distinctive flavors, so if you want the depth of umami without the dish being unbalanced with soy sauce flavor, then adding MSG is the way to go.

I wrote "for example" -a lot of but sauces that get used like oyster sauce or fish sauce also gave it. But anyway, I don't have any issue with MSG, just saying you dont have to add it in literal powder form if other ingredients already include it because too much can actually ruin a dish, taste-wise.

NAYRT

The fact that is was “for example” doesn’t mean people can’t comment on the example? I don’t find anything objectionable in your first reply, or this one. So I’m just pointing that out.

Nah, it's okay. Was my fault in the first playce for not reading properly.

You’re correct.

would you say "there's guaranteed MSG present in the ingredients they use", perhaps???

I feel like this is a reference I don't get lol

AYRT is quoting the secret at you, since your comment suggests you only read half of it.

I mean, yeah apparently was already half asleep but ... that part kinda makes the secret stupid because if there is MSG in the ingredients they don't "lie their ass off" if they don't add extra just because they don't mention it explicitly if it's already included?
But yeah, read over that, my bad.

Except it doesn’t make the secret stupid at all. What a needlessly rude and untrue thing to say. Especially since you didn’t even bother to read the secret properly, and didn’t even get that until someone spelled it out for you. So even you admitting you didn’t read the secret correctly or all the way through at first, and giving the reason(which would be understandable if you didn’t then insult OP out of nowhere), doesn’t undo how hollow that admission now is when you still blame the secret for your misunderstanding. “Whoops, I guess I didn’t read it right. But it’s still not REALLY my fault because-“ isn’t a great look.

Having MSG in soy sauce can be enough for some recipes, but not all of them if you’re actually going for true authenticity, no matter what some YouTubers say otherwise. That’s what the secret was actually saying. The YouTubers are still lying their asses off about it in that 1. A lot of these recipes need more MSG to be authentic, or need MSG when the recipe doesn’t call for soy sauce, because not every Chinese dish has soy sauce as an ingredient. And 2. These YouTubers are frequently straight up saying that MSG is both unhealthy and unneeded to make these dishes authentic, while showing they don’t really even know what MSG is by still adding soy sauce to these recipes without knowing it contains MSG. These are some of the same liars who are trying to peddle “healthier diets” by suggesting switching from white sugar to agave syrup.

Geez, get your panties unbunched. I still think it's kinda stupid to imply that everyone who doesn't chuck a shitload of additional MSG into their food is "lying their ass off" which is what the secret IS saying, no matter what follows. And you are really hung up on the soy sauce even though that was just one example - at least for someone who's so insistent on reading properly.

You can read any tone you want, but it’s making the fact that you’re acting in bad faith even more transparent than it already was. You saying I’m pressed is not an actual argument.

It wasn’t just one example, it was a stated reason you thought the secret was stupid. And it was wrong. You trying to walk your bs back isn’t a great look. And it is “lying their asses off” if they are indeed lying, like I said, using actual examples I’ve seen in these videos. I’ve actually seen the YouTubers OP is talking about. So if you haven’t, maybe being the devil’s advocate isn’t a great idea. Besides the fact that you don’t know what you’re talking about in this case, of course.

And besides, as another anon said, MSG isn’t even in soy sauce. Or at least it shouldn’t be. I will admit that I wasn’t aware of that. But that makes your reasoning for saying the secret is stupid even more wrong and unnecessary. It does make one of the reasons I said they were lying(saying the recipe was MSG free, while using soy sauce) incorrect, and I can admit that too. But the other reason stands.

And very hypocritical of you to get mad at anyone for being judgmental, considering you’re the one who called a secret stupid based on assumptions and misinformation. And the “No U didn’t read things correctly” line makes no sense, because I actually read your comment all the way through before commenting, and you saying “it was just one example” doesn’t magically negate anything I said. If one of your examples was wrong, and you call something stupid while not having all your facts straight, guess what? You can be criticized for that. To go the “No U” route you took, maybe you shouldn’t get so heated over someone for criticizing your comments. You were willing to admit you were wrong for commenting on a secret you didn’t read correctly because you were half asleep before. Even if you only realized it when someone pointed it out, which is still fair enough. Where’s that attitude now? Is someone saying something in a way you don’t like enough to ignore the entirety of the comment? I get the defensiveness, I can relate, but that doesn’t mean that an entire comment is automatically wrong. And I wouldn’t have even said anything if you didn’t call the secret stupid for reasons that weren’t correct, so I provided the reasoning for why I felt that way. That’s something that happens in a public forum.

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NAYRT

The secret mentions that Chinese restaurants use ingredients that have MSG in them. actually, for that matter, so do most other kinds of restaurants; it's not like people object to Italian restaurants using anchovies, parmesan, dried mushrooms, and olives.

This is very true. I have to be really careful when I order out since it is a migraine trigger for me. Many different types of restaurants use it or ingredients with it in them.

Yeah, I get it now that I'm more awake and read the secret again. Don't be half asleep and reply.

Well yeah.

Soy, if it's made traditionally shouldn't have MSG in it. It will have glutamates in it from the fermentation process, but that's not quite the same thing. It shouldn't have any MSG added, even if it's a quick fermented high-wheat soy sauce. (Source: I'm a celiac soy-sauce nerd who makes her own soy sauce.)

This.

I never said it has added MSG though? But a lot of naturally occuring glutamates have a very similar effect.

NAYRT

You said:

“several ingredients that include MSG already (soy sauce, for example).”

So while you didn’t say MSG was added in, you did say soy sauce has MSG in it. It doesn’t. It shouldn’t. That’s what AYRT is actually saying.

Monosodium glutamate for which MSG is the abbreviation is naturally occurring in many foods and ingedrients. It's a chemical compound.

Gotcha.

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