[ SECRET POST #5749 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5749 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

He's not 'African-British', that's not a designation used here. He was born in Liverpool, he's English, that's it - we don't label people like that over here.

For information's sake, his mother is Irish and his father is from Guyana, which is in South America.

[(Anonymous)]

My understanding was that "Black", "Black British", "African British", "Caribbean British", "African" and "Caribbean" were all terms used in Britain?

Like this seems to be implying that British people don't see race or color or distinguish people based on race or color, which seems kind of implausible

[(Anonymous)]

Britain is super racist, just racist in a different way than America is racist.

[(Anonymous)]

Can you elaborate here on what, exactly, you mean? What labels or ways of thinking about race *are* present in Britain?

[(Anonymous)]

We generally just label ourselves white/black/mixed/asian/arabic etc and leave it at that. It's pretty obvious by your accent if you weren't born here.

If people care enough, they'll openly ask 'Where are you from?' or 'Where is your accent from?' but it's generally considered impolite to do so.

[(Anonymous)]

Nonsense, the three UK racial labels are:
Pasty white swot.
Angry Gammon.
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Go back to where you came from.

If I had a penny every time I've been called the latter...

[(Anonymous)]

Yuh huh *eyeroll*

[(Anonymous)]

Uh huh, sure.

[(Anonymous)]

Some of those are technical classifications for things like official documents, census, birth certificates, etc. But when it comes to people talking about black individuals generally we just use black because we're mostly taught that assuming someone's family origin without knowing is stupid and ignorant(this obviously doesn't stop people from doing so, but by in large it's considered a no-no).

[(Anonymous)]

OK so "we don't label people, he's just English" is not accurate?

[(Anonymous)]

Ah no, if that were true broadly we wouldn't have our racism issues like we do. I think there's definitely a social intention of 'if you're born in the UK you're British, doesn't matter' in our culture which some people do absolutely ascribe by, but there's also a lot who don't and it gets very muddled into this 'sure they're British(but not really bc they're black/asian)' inside some people's heads.

It's a bit hard to describe honestly because it's weird, contradictory and confusing, but then socialized bigotries tend to be so.

[(Anonymous)]

He'd just be mixed.

Definitely English, but mixed. Some might go with black, but that one drop shit is for the yanks, he's mixed.

[(Anonymous)]

Officially, you might label yourself or others like that, the same as a white person would label themselves 'White British' or 'British Caucasian' but it's not something you use outside of that.

You generally describe yourself as White/Black/Mixed/Arabic/Asian, etc. and leave it at that.

[kallanda_lee]

Europeans in general are less likely to hyphenate. But because most people here do know their heritage, IF we do it, we're more likely to use nationality. Most black people I've know in Britain just say they're black...but if asked nationality, they'd just say British. In any case, I NEVER heard "African-Briton", specifically.

[(Anonymous)]

Which side does he get the spray tan from?

[(Anonymous)]

Clearly his mother, since she was half scouser.

[(Anonymous)]

LMAO! That is so true. Us Scousers come in many shades of self tan.

[(Anonymous)]

LOL

[(Anonymous)]

Another possibility, pretty common for non-white people in entertainment, is that the studio makeup is the wrong colour for him, so he looks weird under lights.