[ SECRET POST #5810 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5810 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I noticed that when Jon started getting back into public life a year or two after leaving The Daily Show that he had gone a bit... weird.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. His agreeing with Rand Paul about gain of function research stuff made me regret ever crushing on the guy. I cringed so hard at my past self I felt it in my bone marrow.

[(Anonymous)]

Gain of function research stuff??

[(Anonymous)]

COVID conspiracy crap, basically.

[(Anonymous)]

There are people out there happy to point and scream conspiracy, but at the same time it's not beyonthe realms of possibility that it did actually originate in a lab. There are legitimate concerns there. The whole issue is just being blurred by the rabid conspiracy crazies grabbing on to a subject they don't fully understand.

[(Anonymous)]

The bread and butter of biolabs whose main source of funding is the military. Gain of function = "can this disease be made more contagious or more deadly or both? Would it be an obvious illegal weapon, or show up on tests as the usually-innocuous germ?"

When this needs to be explained to a civilian population, which doesn't happen very often, it's passed off as necessary to defending against some other country that "could be doing the same research" and developing superbugs. But it's harder to get people to agree with that logic when there's the possibility that a virus that's wreaking havoc on a global scale was a lab escapee or a leak.

[(Anonymous)]

DA above, if that wasn't clear.

[(Anonymous)]

That’s not actually what most gain of function research that actually happens is focused on though. Especially the stuff that tends to make the news and get conspiracy theorists revved up. Let’s take probably the last actual GoF experiment that caused media panic - the fucking flu ferrets in Wisconsin and Tokyo that were developed to study the mechanics of how diseases spread in mammals and the effectiveness of different vaccine strategies on controlling pandemics. The media jumped all over “the super flu” idea and the conspiracy theorists went nuts. But here’s the thing - even if you somehow managed to make the modified bird flu jump from equally modified ferrets to humans, it would be a seriously shitty bioweapon. Like all the other terrorists would make fun of you at the cool parties. Now, the problem that the scientific community had with these experiments is that the university laboratories that conducted them failed to consider downstream applications of this research and possibly didn’t receive appropriate oversight from the university and the federal government.

Also, the flu ferrets, like the majority of “biolabs,” were funded by the NIH and various philanthropic organizations focused on preventing and treating communicable diseases. This is all public record.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that whole thing really bothered me, too. He alluded to it being a joke on a Stephen Colbert episode recently, but I'm not sure if it's just because he got backlash for it (if it WAS a joke, it wasn't at all a funny one because there are actually people out there who believe that BS).

[(Anonymous)]

SA I looked it up. This seems like a legitimate concern, enough that there is wide and ongoing debate over it in the scientific community? Nature even had a discussion piece on it.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02903-x

Not really sure why you think this is something hokey?

[(Anonymous)]

DA I don't know what Stewart said about it specifically, but yes, in relation to COVID it's something hokey. In general discussion about research, it's a relevant topic. But there's no evidence that the Wuhan Institute did any GOF research that involved making any virus more infectious to humans, let alone a SARS virus, and there's considerable evidence of COVID's particular ability to mutate.

[(Anonymous)]

Did they finally let independent inspectors into rge facility then? Because I wouldn't trust the Chinese government's word on anything.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't agree with him on several issues but for a comedian he's still done more for the American people than probably everyone else in this thread, who's happy to sit around "cringing" and doing nothing.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm curious what prompted you to say, "he's still done more for the American people than probably everyone else in this thread, who's happy to sit around "cringing" and doing nothing."

[(Anonymous)]

Jon Stewart actually engages in political activism, and I'm not talking about his Daily Show days. His tenacity when it came to veteran advocacy is honestly astounding because it seems oftentimes nobody in this country gives a shit about that issue, least of all the people in government.

Because he actually speaks his mind on the record, I can look to things like https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/jon-stewart-leisli-rutledge-interview-win-trans-americans-n1299558 to know where he stands on trans issues and so understand that his stance on people like Chapelle is probably more nuanced. Doesn't mean I'm going to watch any Chapelle material or not call him a transphobe whenever I want, but Stewart is allowed his choices too.

[(Anonymous)]

Check out the PACT Act, and the 9/11 first responders bill.

AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

I was aware of that. What I was hoping to get clarity on was the insinuated assumption that no one in the thread does any sort of civic-minded work.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Most people can barely be counted on to vote, let alone have that much impact. I mean, show me the bill you helped pass, I'll wait.

Re: AYRT

[(Anonymous)]

Do local recommendations count? If so, here's one example:

https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/Download/CommitteeReport/2868/PAC-Oct-2022-Full-Minutes.pdf

I also work in elections to ensure voting materials and ballots are properly recorded and stored. I have seen and engaged with civic engagement beyond voting and passing legislation. I also recognize that even doing this much (or little, depending on your point of view) can be fairly time intensive work.

[(Anonymous)]

100%

[(Anonymous)]

So...because of that he gets a pass? How much leeway does he get? Can he kill puppies?

[(Anonymous)]

It's worse now but even before that he was pretending no one knew anything about Louie CK and there were no rumours, which even I knew wasn't true.