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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-12-02 09:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #5810 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5810 ⌋

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[personal profile] fscom 2022-12-03 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
07. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia, antisemitism]
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(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
... isn't Jon Stewart Jewish though?

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
It's possible to have internalized bigotry/hatred of any kind (see discussion of a certain famous idiot in the GC). Though in Stewart's case, I'm not entirely sure that's what it is.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
It’s “comedians can say whatever and there are no sacred cows.”

I do think there is something of a difference between jokes and dipshits like Kanye, though I don’t think jokes like this are necessary in 2022.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Kanye West? I'm pretty sure that guy's not joking at all.

I don't think there are "sacred cows" in comedy either. But I also think that as a comedian, a person can't punch down and then cry about cancel culture. Either they know what they're doing and are deliberately being a dick for reasons, or they haven't learned to not suck at comedy. Ignorance as an excuse only goes so far.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
DA

From what I remember, yeah, he is.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I noticed that when Jon started getting back into public life a year or two after leaving The Daily Show that he had gone a bit... weird.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. His agreeing with Rand Paul about gain of function research stuff made me regret ever crushing on the guy. I cringed so hard at my past self I felt it in my bone marrow.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
Gain of function research stuff??

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that whole thing really bothered me, too. He alluded to it being a joke on a Stephen Colbert episode recently, but I'm not sure if it's just because he got backlash for it (if it WAS a joke, it wasn't at all a funny one because there are actually people out there who believe that BS).

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
SA I looked it up. This seems like a legitimate concern, enough that there is wide and ongoing debate over it in the scientific community? Nature even had a discussion piece on it.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02903-x

Not really sure why you think this is something hokey?

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
I don't agree with him on several issues but for a comedian he's still done more for the American people than probably everyone else in this thread, who's happy to sit around "cringing" and doing nothing.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm curious what prompted you to say, "he's still done more for the American people than probably everyone else in this thread, who's happy to sit around "cringing" and doing nothing."

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
100%

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
So...because of that he gets a pass? How much leeway does he get? Can he kill puppies?

(Anonymous) 2022-12-04 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It's worse now but even before that he was pretending no one knew anything about Louie CK and there were no rumours, which even I knew wasn't true.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
I don't see how you get defense of Chappelle out of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V_sEqfIL9Q

But what I do see is him saying that just slapping the label antisemitism on the problem and canceling them isn't enough. And I agree.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for posting the link. I didn't know what this secret was commenting on.

And also, I think you're right.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for making my secret. I was angry when I wrote it and went harsh on them. I'm still upset though.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Jon Stewart is welcome to his opinion, and his opinion is far more nuanced and interesting than the goddamn outrage machine. Chappelle is a dick, and Stewart isn't saying otherwise. He's saying let's have a conversation rather than instantly turn into screaming banshees.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Of course he's welcome to his opinion, and I completely disagree with it. "Having a conversation" with people like that is just a waste of time.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
The alternative of screaming at them doesn't really work either though is the problem. Something Stewart is mature and worldly enough to know, and most puerile morons on social media aren't.

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
Well, Jon Stewart knows Dave Chapelle, and I don't, so while it would be a waste of time for me to attempt to have a conversation for many reasons, it might not be the case for Jon.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Seconding every word of this. I'm grateful to you for phrasing it so well, so that I have something to point at and go, "Yeah, exactly."

(Anonymous) 2022-12-03 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
^^This.

There are people who will assume that flying into a rage means the other person must have done something really terrible, but there are a lot of onlookers who think flying into a rage is a distraction technique, used in lieu of actually having any good counter-arguments.