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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-12-06 07:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #5814 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5814 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2022-12-07 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Kaeluc fan huh

(Anonymous) 2022-12-07 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Saw a post about that ship on Tumblr that weirded me the heck out. Something to the effect of

anon: hey you ship kaeluc but isn't that basically incest since they're found family?
op: ah shit i didn't realize that
commenter: don't worry! according to the wiki something something not like literal siblings something
op: oh good it's fine then, phew
another commenter: reminder of the fact that it's not incestuous and specifically because of this i'm disgusted by all the hate and harassment people are sending kaeluc shippers

Like buddy, you should be disgusted by harassment regardless of whether a given ship is or isn't "technically incest"!

(Anonymous) 2022-12-07 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT - Lol oh that's how it usually goes. Not problematic (because the game LOVES it and it's obviously intended as a ship) until someone else points out, and then it's Problematic. The joke here is that shipping KaeLuc is about as problematic as shipping HaruMichi because they are cousins (spoilers: they are not).

Frankly I don't do incest ships myself so I was about to skip the secret when I saw the word, but then I remembered it could be (likely is) about them and did a double take. Not liking incest ships should be okay! Liking them too, I mean, I may choose not to interact with someone who ships incest because I don't feel comfortable with that kind of content in my timeline but whatever. Cyberbullying/ganging up on people over a imagined relationship? No, that's not okay. Just don't follow if you don't like it. It's okay, I hate some "unproblematic" ships too. Thought police? Pretty fucking dumb.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-07 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
If HaruMichi were cousins, antis would call it problematic and proshippers would call them racist for saying that because cousins dating is normal in Japan (spoilers: it is not)

(Anonymous) 2022-12-07 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT - Possibly, yeah. But I compared it to HaruMichi because back then I don't recall anyone saying "eww I don't ship HaruMichi because they're COUSINS IN THE ADAPTATION". Fans would say "oh, that's censorship then? Fine so I will ship them as intended". People are out there saying it's "wrong" to ship Kaeluc because "they are brothers in the English version" when the original version says they are "sworn brothers" much like a lot of BL works do to get past Chinese censorship issues. Sigh.

But that's only the tip of the iceberg (really I Have Seen Some Shit.jpg) though I do stand by the notion that, regardless of whether it's "racist" (one of those serious words that kids have been throwing around like it's nothing like pedophile and so on) some kids are really stuck up in their middle class Western views of the world and can't accept that some kids can be raised by families that are not their own and not be "siblings" but rather "childhood friends" . Not just in China (no idea if it happens in China at all really) but just uh in poor local neighborhoods even.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-07 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
Proshippers would possibly call them racist if in this hypothetical case, antics kept talking over Japanese fans who told them "they're not cousins in the original language, that's YOUR censorship", not because cousins dating is allegedly normal in Japan (which... It's not normal but it's legal, like in many, many western countries too).

(Anonymous) 2022-12-07 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I agree about the immorality of harassing and thought policing in fandom.