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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-12-28 06:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #5836 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5836 ⌋

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[Designing Women]


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[Arcane]


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[Mob Psycho 100]


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[bungou stray dogs; skk 'soukoku' - dazai/chuuya]


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[High on Life]


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(Anonymous) 2022-12-29 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Just to point out, a character just being flirtatious with women doesn't necessarily mean they're straight. There's a character in one of my canons who is very flirtatious and charming with women but canon never once references him ever having a relationship with a woman (despite making it clear that women frequently pursue HIM) or being interested in anything beyond casual flirtation, despite having multiple opportunities to do so. It becomes very obvious why when canon makes it unambiguously clear that he's into his male best friend Like That.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-29 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Do you mean Koujaku from Dramatical Murder?

(Anonymous) 2022-12-29 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Saying he's not into guys isn't technically proof of straightness either. Lots of people who aren't straight start out thinking like that. So yeah, when that happens but I wanna ship, I just pretend the character hasn't realized they're bi yet. I don't pretend that's how it was meant to be taken, but strictly speaking it doesn't have to conflict with canon as it is presented.

And then in one of my fandoms there's a guy who says "Don't get any weird ideas; I like girls." That's near the beginning, and throughout the entire run he shows no interest in any girl, or girls in general, ever (as opposed to several other male characters who do). That's excellent fodder for headcanons about why he really felt the need to say he "liked girls."

(Anonymous) 2022-12-29 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but saying he isn't into guys isn't exactly, "Oh boy, I really want to get with guys!" either.

(Anonymous) 2022-12-29 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know how you got that from what I said. Of course it's not that. My point was that a lot of people say that because they, themselves, do not know yet that they're also capable of being into guys (or girls, if they're a girl). Not everyone who is attracted to any gender necessarily "really wants to get with" anyone. All you need to be the sexual orientation you are is the capability to feel attraction. No eagerness required!

(Anonymous) 2022-12-29 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
I got that from the very first line of your comment, which most readers would generally assume to be something you considered important:

"Saying he's not into guys isn't technically proof of straightness either."

It's not proof that he's not straight either. It is, in fact, a data point towards straightness.

You're right - sexual identity can be a journey. If there are other data points, like... never actually goes out with girls, or, spends a lot of time thinking about male friends' physicality, sure, we the audience can make some inferences. And that journey of exploration can be a fascinating thing.

But if the *only thing* we know about a character is a clear statement they make about their sexuality. Well. I'm going to assume that they are, in canon, intended to be what they say they are.

If we're talking shipping? Shipping is usually a little bit AU, so knock yourself out. But god. If we're trying to make a conclusion about what a character canonically *is?* What the author intended them to be? Then unambiguous statements they make about themselves are a place to start, not... some kind of inconvenience to be immediately ignored.