[ SECRET POST #5885 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5885 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 22 secrets from Secret Submission Post #842.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I know you're trolling but genuinely, fuck you.

[(Anonymous)]

I can really relate to most of this. For me though, I can read m/f... as long as it's focused on the man. And that would look bad without an explanation because it looks like I'm just feeding into the "sex is for the man's pleasure and the woman's just there to provide it for him" mindset. Sometimes I worry that that's what I'm doing anyway because nobody knows my reasons or because secretly unbeknownst to me, that's really how I feel and i really do think women are gross and unimportant. A lot of people in fandom sure seem hellbent on making everyone who doesn't love anything and everything involving female characters believe that about themselves.

[(Anonymous)]

The fuck is a tankie?

[tabaqui]

Yeah, I don't find that to be something I want to watch *at all*. It's kind of creepy, really. All the 'cast adults to play kids' casting is creepy. I get why they do it sometimes, but...blech.

[tabaqui]

Heeee!
I...kinda wanna read fic, now....

[(Anonymous)]

A tankie is someone who defends authoritarian and imperialist stuff when it's done by left-wing governments. The original tankie were the Western Communists who continued to support the Soviet Union after it sent in tanks to crush the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 - hence the name.

[(Anonymous)]

No m/m writer is saying they're the superior feminist to m/f and f/f enjoyers. We're saying we have no obligation to do the work to fix the source's misogyny. We generally say more power to fans who do want to do that work! As long as they don't call us misogynists for not wanting to. Which they do, and THAT's the issue, not the fact that they write about women. Lol.

[sabotabby]

I am positive I saw fic of it at the time. I know myself and my impulses and I definitely went looking.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks, secret maker! It's pretty. I like it.

[tabaqui]

Heeeee. Oh yes.

[(Anonymous)]

It's weird, because comic books, where you have total control over character ages, almost always ages the kid up at some stage, but TV just slogs on with this "five-year-old" forever.

[(Anonymous)]

No. The point is there's no shortage of fantastic female characters nowadays but you guys will still blame your disinterest on "misogynistic writing" rather than just own the fact that you'll always prefer m/m regardless. The women will never be good enough

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly as much as I dislike it, there's no great middle ground.

1. You incorporate time skips into the storyline to account for the aging, and for some stories that isn't going to work.
2. You go the '24 y/o plays a 16 y/o' route because the 24 y/o isn't going to noticeably age.
3. You film the whole thing aggressively quickly so the actors don't have time to visibly age, which isn't exactly realistic.

[(Anonymous)]

Or, or, like OP said, they just don't want to be in a position where they're dealing with imagining themselves in the scenario, which isn't misogynistic...

I read every spectrum, but my scale of ace is only triggered by me being in a real life position where I might be intimate with someone else. Fiction (especially written fiction) doesn't bother me so I read m/f, f/f, m/m, harem, whatever.

That doesn't mean everyone else HAS to.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

One, I just want to point out that the secret really isn't about this. You've sort of brought all of this into the conversation. The whole point of the secret is that people can be interested primarily in m/m just because that's what they're interested in. And the secret is right. People don't have to be interested in f/f shipping. It's not a requirement.

Second - and I say this as someone who's primarily an f/f shipper - it is still way harder to find interesting female characters than it is to find interesting male characters. And it's still way harder to find shippy f/f media than it is to find m/m media. It's still just fundamentally the case that the casts of most media are biased towards having way more male characters than female characters, and female characters are still extremely prone to having storylines centered around male characters. It's wayyyyyy better than it used to be. But it's still very much a thing. Again, it's not really relevant to whether people should ship f/f pairings - they should ship them if they like them, not for any other reason. But I don't think you're quite right in what you're saying.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, thank you! :)

[(Anonymous)]

As already stated, obvious troll is obvious, but wow. That’s some beautiful artwork in the background image.

[greghousesgf]

I got kicked off Tv tropes, they said it was because they didn't like the way I indented paragraphs which I think is a lame reason.

[(Anonymous)]

As an ace woman, this secret is extremely relatable to me. I can and do still ship M/F pairings--hell, from the time I was fourteen to the time I was twenty-three I shipped exclusively M/F pairings. But once I got into slash, it genuinely was kind of difficult to go back, because I find it a lot easier to cut loose and just enjoy M/M and let it be whatever it is and just roll with that. With M/M I'm able to identify with the characters and empathize with them however I want to, without feeling like I instinctively can't avoid identifying with them in certain ways whether I want to or not, which is what tends to happen with M/F.

[(Anonymous)]

Half of me went "go you" but another half went "if as an ace I only do m/m and f/f am I Heterophobe (lol) or just unable to see myself in a f/f relationship? Is this some sort of internalized homophobia?" and now I am Wondering.

[tabaqui]

..........really? Wow.

I tried to become a Wiki editor, but it doesn't like my VPN or something. I was reading about...The Secret Garden? No - A Little Princess, and there was something in there about someone being threatened with being stabbed to death, which was...totally wtf.

I wanted to correct it, but...no joy. Oh well!

[tabaqui]

Ha, yeah, that does seem kind of pointless....

[(Anonymous)]

Smutfic and shipping aren't activism yo

[(Anonymous)]

I ship all combos, but I only read smutfic of either m/m or f/f, not m/f, because that way I don't have to worry about hetero gender stereotype/trope shit popping up to ruin my fun

[(Anonymous)]

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4.You animate it.