[ SECRET POST #5972 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #5972 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I feel this. I have all the usual complaints about the quality of most of the recent MCU movies, and I stand by those complaints, but ultimately, if Steve (Cap!Steve, not Biden!Steve) came back, my interest would be significantly restored.

And if Tony came back, I would be back on board so damn fast.

I tried to reserve judgement back in 2019, but even then I was 95% sure the franchise wouldn't be able to rekindle my interest after writing them both out. It just felt finished, to me, and probably would've still felt finished even if Tony and Steve had been written out in ways I was happier about.

[(Anonymous)]

The franchise has had enough Tony, IMO. More than enough.

[(Anonymous)]

I very much disagree. I couldn't feel that the MCU "has had enough" of either Tony or Steve, because IMO they were the central core of the MCU; the twin tentpoles of the franchise. They were both integral to what the MCU was, IMO. With both of them gone, the whole thing feels a bit saggy and formless. Not that I don't love some of the other characters, because I do--but none of the other characters were built to hang the franchise on the way Tony and Steve were, IMO, and furthermore, neither Tony nor Steve were built to be the center on their own. It worked so well because there was two of them, and they each had such tremendous vitality as characters yet were so different.

[(Anonymous)]

Completely agree.

But I don't want to see other actors play Tony and Steve, which I guess is a problem. But not a problem because the original actors can age slowly with sfx! But they probably wanted to move on, so...problem.

[(Anonymous)]

+100

[(Anonymous)]

It’s more than understandable to not like Tony, but that doesn’t mean that everyone agrees with you that there’s been enough of him.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

And I’m aware that’s what “IMO” means, just let me say my dumb words in peace.

[(Anonymous)]

If the choice was between bringing back Tony Stark and letting the MCU die, I'd rather let it die.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. If Tony/RDJ came back that would probably be the moment that I tap out for good. He's already sucked up enough screen time to the detriment of everyone else, including himself, honestly.

[(Anonymous)]

But for some people, it did already die when they got rid of him(and Cap). So the choice would actually be between bringing back Tony or reviving the MCU. Which would basically be the same option to these specific people.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, this. Bringing back Tony would be reviving the MCU for me. Bringing back Steve might also revive it, though I'm more skeptical that tptb would manage to actually write anything decent for Steve at this point, and imo Steve as a character is more reliant on a good script than Tony is.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, for me it's just not the MCU without Tony. But losing both Tony and Cap at the same time made it almost impossible to rebound from.

[(Anonymous)]

I like both Tony and Steve, especially Tony. But I’ve enjoyed the MCU a lot more post-Endgame. I didn’t like Civil War, Infinity War or Endgame in a lot of ways for one, although the last two had their moments. And another possible reason is because while I liked them individually as characters, and their relationships with others, their interactions with each other were always awkward and frustrating to watch for me. Until they make up in Endgame, I guess. But everything about their drama with each other was a boat anchor dragging the overall stories down for me.

Idk, I like that there seems to be more story opportunities with theirs over, even though I completely agree with people who think the way their stories ended was insulting. And I like a lot of the characters that are getting more spotlight now just as much as I like Steve and Tony. Not everything post-Endgame has been my thing, but I’ve regained a lot of enjoyment for the MCU after Endgame was officially over. I do wish Natasha had lived though, because I really wish there could be more than one Black Widow movie.

This was a jumbled mess of a response, I know. But so are my thoughts on this subject.

[(Anonymous)]

>everything about their drama with each other was a boat anchor dragging the overall stories down for me.

This right here. I loved them so much in the comics their dynamic in those movies pretty much killed my enjoyment of MCU so I didn't even get to Endgame. I was already done.

[(Anonymous)]

while I liked them individually as characters, and their relationships with others, their interactions with each other were always awkward and frustrating to watch for me.

Hmm. I totally get where you're coming from, and I think it is a very popular opinion to have, but personally I mostly don't feel this way.

I definitely DO think that their dynamic (specifically their MCU dynamic) tended to bring out the worst in both of them; Steve was at his most self-righteous and condescending when interacting with Tony, and Tony was at his most defensive and needlessly provocative when interacting with Steve. With that said, for the most part I kind of loved that. It could definitely be frustrating--and to be clear, there were plenty of things about their shared movies that I didn't like--but just the basic dynamic they had of bringing out the worst in each other and getting under each other's skin at the best of times, while basically being the twin pillars at the center of the Avengers initiative was super interesting to me, and felt like it had endless potential. (Not that I necessarily love a lot of what was done with that potential--but it was so narratively potent that even after a number of flubs, I still found it compelling.)

And ever since Endgame the entire franchise has felt bloated and directionless to me. But to each their own. It's cool that some people are still getting enjoyment out of the franchise.