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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-05-27 05:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #5986 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5986 ⌋

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[personal profile] pantswarrior 2023-05-27 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean... I kinda get it? Because I also really like talking shop to fellow cosplayers, and it's kind of disappointing when you find out... you can't.

But the thing is, cosPLAYing just means you are playing in a costume. So it's not so much that I like talking shop with "fellow cosplayers" as "fellow costumers". The two used to have more overlap. Now they have less overlap so any random cosplayer I'm talking to may or may not also be a costumer

So I adjust my expectations. For me it would never be satisfying to just buy a pre-made costume to wear around, but for others it is, and that is okay. They're still cosplayers, just not costumers. We can have different kinds of conversations.

(Just, y'know, if they buy their costume, don't freaking enter it in contests, but that should be well-known by now. :P)

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, this! I'm friends with someone who makes their own costumes from scratch, and she always has a great time talking with other people who do that. But she also has fun taking photos with people who obviously didn't make anything. These can and should be two different ways to enjoy yourself.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
not secret OP but someone who agrees with most of their points: I wish we could make/keep the costuming = creating and cosplaying = wearing distinction in fandom. I enjoy costuming SO MUCH, it's been a hobby of mine off and on for more than two decades, but I'm incredibly allergic to the "pretend to be the character" side of things. Like, people can do it! they can enjoy it! It's just not my scene, and if I never had to explain the difference to another well-meaning acquaintance again I'd be overjoyed.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
Comment OP here and yes, this. I'm in it to make costumes so I can dress as a character, not act like them. I can't act for shit.

And for cosplayers who are in it to, I guess, "become" the character, a lot of them maybe can't sew or make anything for shit.

And then there's the people who get on my nerves who just want to dress as a character. It's harmless and brings them joy and I'm being dumb.

I'm sure there are plenty of cosplayers who think I shouldn't cosplay because I'm not an astonishingly talented or skilled costumer, just stubborn, because I can't act, because I'm fat and middle aged, and on and on.

That's why I posted this as a secret comment and don't actually do the gatekeeping asshole thing irl. People who just like dressing up shouldn't stop just because I'm bitching on FS.

Idk, I do wish we could go back to separating costumers, people dressing up, and cosplayers (as people who both dress up as and act like the characters).

They were never totally distinct categories, but I feel like maybe more amateur costumers would go back to wearing their work at cons if it wasn't almost expected that if they aren't already fantastically skilled at costuming, they should just buy their outfits, from off the rack to $$$ custom, depending on their budget.

It's like people get intimidated by the pro work (which is amazing) and are scared off trying to learn because no one wears their middling journeyman efforts in public anymore.

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
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I'm sure there are plenty of cosplayers who think I shouldn't cosplay

That's one of the things that bugs me about the costume/cosplay conflation-- I've seen SO many wonderful people who LOVE a character and would love to do the costumes but are scared off because they feel like they don't have the right "look" (too short, too old, "not pretty enough" etc) and I find that SO frustrating because! You should be able to just! Do your thing! With joy! And not fret about whether you look like the character stepped out of the movie/show!

(Anonymous) 2023-05-28 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS.

This is why I hate "professional cosplaying" in standees honestly.

It's usually just hot models wearing some ready made costume. They may or may not know the source material.
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[personal profile] capsulecorp_tm 2023-05-28 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
same page as always, man. I've known a lot of people over the years who got started buying and moved into making because they wanted something that fit them better or would last more than one convention, and others who approach cosplay the same as Halloween (it's throwaway and that's all they want), and filtering out the latter just makes a better pool of the former to talk shop with. I remember seeing people who started out thrifting or buying showing up in local con contests with their first homemade costumes, and now some of them are on my level and judging themselves! /wipes tear I'm so proud.