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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-06-03 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #5993 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5993 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-06-03 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
For the creatively ungifted, "Neener neener! I like the thing you don't like so THERE!" is quite the zinger. I guess. It does assume that the person who dislikes X is secretly gnashing their teeth over the fact that people who like it exist and that seems like a pretty big leap to make. But people are peculiar that way.

For the record, I don't like pineapple on my pizza, but for the people who do, go for it and enjoy!

(Anonymous) 2023-06-03 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it has anything to do with being "creatively ungifted" I think it's more a strong emotional reaction to people feeling like they are being told what they enjoy is bad. That's generally not what the secret is actually saying, but often when people criticize or speak negatively about things, especially for nerds who are often ostracized for what they like, the illogical emotional reaction is defensiveness.

I've definitely had the reaction before.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-03 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
For me, anytime I've felt the need to add a comment to something the OP doesn't enjoy but I do, it's either been:

1. As anon above mentioned, strong emotional reaction, so I just gotta let the world know
2. I REALLY love whatever OP is talking about and OMG somebody finally mentioned it? Negatively? Oh well! I need to let the world know and hopefully find someone else who likes it too!!!!
3. There aren't many comments when I've posted and I was just in the mood to share

9/10 It's nothing against the OP or their opinion. I just was inclined to give mine, as I don't have many other places to share it and possibly find others who I can squee with. That 1/10 I thoroughly disagree, and unless I'm prepared to give a good rebuttal other than my opinion, I tend not to post.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-03 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
All of this!

(Anonymous) 2023-06-03 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
For me, it's an instinctive defensiveness born from years of having my interests dismissed, ignored, and trivialized by my family. I know jumping on other people for expressing their negative opinion on something I like is an asshole move, so I've been actively trying to move my instinct more into a comedy direction than a defensive one. Like, "hey, if you try to make the thing they hate about it funny, maybe they'll like it?" I know it doesn't work like that, but the end result is not being a dick about it, and that's what's important.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
I felt it in my bones.
I am a whole ass adult but I still get defensive and I don't like sharing my thoughts about things I like. Because my interests were always dismissed and ridiculed. I only should have liked the right things (exm. books. And no one checked actually if they are for my age or something) and never the wrong things (exm. anime. I had to watch Sailor Moon and Gundam secretly like it's a porn).
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[personal profile] pantswarrior 2023-06-04 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Not so much on the "I don't like X" "Well I love X!!!" discourse but the bit about people not understanding the point of this community... it always baffles me when people post a secret that's like "I secretly do/like/hate thing, I just don't let anyone know" and it gets comments like either "omg how dare you?!" or "So?"

I mean... isn't that the whole reason it's a fandom SECRET? Something you don't say to anyone in your fandom under an actual username, because you know it's something that would bug people/no one cares? *shrug* Seems like the perfect venue for these sorts of confessions, so it always strikes me as amusing.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the "so?" comments particularly bother me.

OP

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, that's a class of reaction that baffles me too. It's fandom SECRETS. For whatever reason the OP doesn't want this attached to their public identity/persona, and that's fine.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
TBF, sometimes the "I don't like X because Y" secrets are sometimes... weird, because X has nothing to *do* with Y, or it's only a small part of X, in which case, you're kinda begging for someone to Earnestly Explain, yeah?

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
This ^

I think there are a few different reasons for this particular type of response.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
1. Like the commenters above mentioned, defensiveness from the commenter - regardless of how the secret is worded. It may be a sore spot because of how other people in the past have denigrated that something or the people who liked it.

2. The commenter may have misread or misinterpreted the secret to be derisively directed at people who like that something.

3. The secret maker inadvertently comes across as disdainful or questioning of people who like that something. For instance, "Why do people like this something? It's horrible," seems to imply that people who like it lack taste. Whereas this, "I don't really understand the appeal of this something," doesn't seem to hold any sort value judgement, but it does feel like it's asking for an explanation.

4. The commenter is genuinely offended that someone dislikes that something that they like. (Yes, it's weird, but there are some people who apparently never grew out of their egocentrism stage.)

Re: I think there are a few different reasons for this particular type of response.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
5. This is a discussion forum, so discussion happens here.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 09:23 am (UTC)(link)
1) I'm always under the impression when a secret is along the lines of "I don't like X", it indicates they don't want to talk to others in a public way about that opinion. Hence, this is them sharing a secret.

2) I think anyone responding with the opposite opinion, so long as it's not overly defensive/accusatory/disrespectful, is within their right to respond? Fandom Secrets exists so we can share our secrets, and then to also discuss them, right?

I do get when someone misses the point entirely, but that's par for the course. We misinterpret people's words and intentions all the time, that's just human nature.

I work around this by not engaging if either the secret or comment thread are too divisive or I have no skin in the game.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
Shrug. OP, if you're offended that people enjoy something you've declared is bad, maybe just find an anti-site and vent among likeminded individuals.

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I don’t think that’s what OP is saying.

OP

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Not offended at anyone liking anything. Just decided to turn an observation into fodder for discussion.

OP here

(Anonymous) 2023-06-04 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
thanks for the interesting discussion on the topic, y'all!