[ SECRET POST #6010 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6010 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[fscom]

05. https://i.imgur.com/2DopR9D.png

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, I think it has great potential! Only I've never found a fic with any of that. A few that looked like they would, but nope, it all turned into requited love.

I mean, imagine a Hannibal hanahaki fic! Amazing.

[(Anonymous)]

*Starts taking notes for future fanfic ideas*

[(Anonymous)]

This picture is so upsetting. Right on par for how upsetting I find hanahaki in general.

On topic, I'll never read it but it sounds like a great fic idea! I always like turning a trope around like that.

[(Anonymous)]

I imagine aroaces in settings where hanahaki is real must be constantly paranoid about accidentally causing someone's death. And now that I think about it, everyone else as well. I don't think anyone could be easygoing in such a setting. Unless they're a psycopath.

[(Anonymous)]

I see "aroace" all over the place, but never a term for romantic asexuals - is there one?

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

That's just ace.

[(Anonymous)]

Huh. Thanks!

[(Anonymous)]

Different anon, but the other person who replied has it... either wrong or outdated!

Asexual/ace - uninterested in sex, may be interested in romance
Aromantic/aro - uninterested in romance, may be interested in sex
Aroace - uninterested in sex and romance

All these terms are on a spectrum, of course, but those are the simple definitions as I know them

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Fellow AroAce here. It's not a lack of interest, but a lack of attraction. There are plenty of of us who enjoy sex and/or romance, but because we don't experience sexual or romantic attraction, we're still AroAce.

[himejoshiheart]

alloace! and an alloaro is an aro person who isn't asexual

[(Anonymous)]

This is why hanahaki is one of my bulletproof squicks. The idea that people owe it to other people to fall in love with them is pure nightmare fuel for me. It's like Nice Guy/Gal thinking turned up to 25.

[(Anonymous)]

Same! I can't stop thinking about this scenarios and it's a big quick for me

SA

[(Anonymous)]

*squick
Thanks, phone

[(Anonymous)]

I thought the idea was that they don't owe the sufferer anything, and that's why it's tragic. The concept of flowers growing inside a living person creeps me out, so I don't look for hanahaki in general, but there is a story I like a lot where it's basically the same but a curse instead of a disease and no flowers, the sufferer will simply die eventually unless their love is requited before then. The sufferer makes sure to avoid the person they're in love with as much as possible and not tell anyone about their condition because they would rather die than have the other person be guilted into loving them.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd love to see, like... the slow building horror of a friend-- not the love interest, but just a friend or a relative, like... putting together the puzzle pieces as someone tries to hide that they have it. But honestly, even though I don't go there, I'd probably read Hannibal manipulating people into falling for him so he can cook and eat them.

[(Anonymous)]

i could see hannibal figuring out the precise circumstances and the precise personalities he needs to get to fall for him to get--idk--basil or something grow, just so the future victim would be pre-seasoned and everything.

[(Anonymous)]

BASIL that's BRILLIANT

[(Anonymous)]

First of all, these are all great concepts!

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3?! I yelled out!!! If I was writing fic right now....dagnabbit!

[(Anonymous)]

MY favourite hanahaki fic was about the sufferer's love for his family who literally are incapable of love. A good take on it!

[(Anonymous)]

Isn't Hanahaki disease about not *confessing* your feelings? Like, you would have it until you confessed, and whether or not it was requited had no bearing on it.

[(Anonymous)]

That sounds like a variant idea of the trope. But the original idea of Hanahaki, and indeed the version vast majority of fics use, is unrequited love. I've read a version once where it was about the sufferer's perception of their love interest's feelings (it was always requited, but the sufferer had low self esteem and couldn't believe anyone could actually love them). But in it's most classic form Hanahaki operates on the "if this person doesn't return your feelings you will die" idea.

[(Anonymous)]

I heard it's the other way around. Originally hanahaki was about the flowers as a metaphor for unspoken confession that would be cured if a confession happened, but it changed into a more literal disease that comes from unrequited love.... But my source was Twitter and might have been someone trying to make the trope origins sound less problematic so they could enjoy it with a clear moral conscience.

[(Anonymous)]

NA

Yeah, I saw the same thing but on Tumblr, which ... doesn't mean much.

I also like the variant where it's just any secret / emotion in general, and the hanahaki stops when you confess / admit it.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not a huge fan of the trope, but from my limited understanding and experience, the original one is the confession version.
IF it was originated in the Japanese fandom, which I assume it was, the confession version was the only version I ever saw years ago, when it exploded in the novel section of pixiv. (for manga fandom I'm more into japanese fics than english ones)
It was a metaphor for words not said that slowly kills your true self.
You can see this trope a lot also in manga or strips where a character, usually a tsundere, has flowers/hearts around them to signal the fact that they have feelings that they don't say but only think/show. That's the fluffier version of hanahaki I think.
The stories usually end up with a good ending of "THE FEELING IS REQUIRED NOW WE ARE TOGETHER", but the required love is not what solve the hanahaki disease. It's saying the words.

IDK though. Maybe it was originally invented in the western fandom and then adapted into the Japanese one. Who knows.