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fandomsecrets2023-07-02 02:35 pm
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(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 03:49 am (UTC)(link)But, I don't know, maybe that's an American problem. Maybe anons who watch mostly European media could rec us some good fiction that shows more the view people have of it over there? Because I have tried to explain the culture fight over abortion in the US to western European friends and it seems completely unthinkable to them. Like ... self-evident that pregnancy control is a human right for women, and not up for debate in the slightest.
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(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 08:40 am (UTC)(link)I think you misread what I said. I'm in the US, and I was trying to explain something about American politics to friends who've never been here and wanted to know what the fuss was about. It's equally fascinating to me that abortion access is a settled question, in their countries, and I'd love to know how that came about. But so far, I've had no luck getting an explanation for why it's like that because it seems hard for them to imagine that it could be so different, here. That people could get an education, reach adulthood, and come to such strange conclusions about sex and procreation.
I'm not mentioning it to put anyone on the spot on fandomsecrets, regardless of where they live or how backwards (or not) their politicians are. I'd prefer it if you didn't, either.
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(Anonymous) 2023-07-03 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)And it’s also completely untrue. There’s plenty of Europeans that care about women’s rights, in America and in general, regardless of whether they have to or not. Because that’s how empathy works. They read about Roe v. Wade being overturned, and they empathize with the women who will suffer because of it. Just because their country cares about reproductive rights unlike America doesn’t change the fact that they’re still capable of understanding and caring about the situation here.
And the way you framed this in your last sentence as “the woman’s rights” being something Europeans don’t understand or care about is particularly weird. I know you’re really only talking about abortion rights, but this sentence makes it sound like you’re saying that women’s right’s and feminism in general aren’t something Europeans could get because they don’t have to worry about it. Like you’re implying they’re American concepts, as if America is the only country that cares about the rights of women. Or that it’s the only country that doesn’t have abortion rights, and that all of Europe is such a feminist wonderland that Europeans wouldn’t need to know or care about it and would take women’s rights for granted. Again, I know that’s not what you mean, but that’s how that sentence sounds like because of the phrasing.
All in all, the aggressive and dismissive tone of your responses, mixed with you misreading AYRT’s comment completely, make for very strange responses.