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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-04 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #6024 ]


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(Anonymous) 2023-07-05 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I want to say it depends on the platform, but I am no longer sure. I block nerdrage YouTube channels on principle (every time they use the word 'woke' or use caps locks), and you are better off not reading any discussion posts for videogames on Steam.

Unfortunately, this seems to be something spreading overall. It is why I do not engage in fandoms anymore. They rarely feel like places to gush about your canons or write theories and stories, and more as if to vent on how things changed from your childhood days. Worse if the reason for their complaints is because women or minorities take a central role.

I don't know if YouTube is to blame, but more and more I come to agree with the saying 'the internet was a mistake'.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-05 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
not OP

I think modern social media is to blame, especially tumblr and twitter. They both have algorithms that work on pushing the most controversial things because that promotes engagement. Everyone is in one big forum with no moderation and few controls, so everyone can be as much of an asshole as they want with no way to stop them.

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2023-07-05 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Twitter, I already knew, and it's the reason I want nothing but to see it burnt to the ground. YouTube, Reddit, and Facebook do it too, and while the latter is thankfully dying an unmourned death, YouTube and Reddit still need strong contenders (preferably one that could somehow be like Mastodon). I recall it's because it gets engagement, clicks, and therefore more ads, which is an algorithm that now that I think about it, should be illegal.

But Tumblr? I knew of the nature of reblogs, but I never knew it was subject to an algorithm of its own to promote controversial content. They profit from people screaming at eachother, and the angrier people they get, the more they win. Jesus Christ, no wonder things suck so much ass, now.

Smaller communities are miles easier to moderate than large ones. The larger a community, the more likely people will do or say nasty shit.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2023-07-05 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Tumblr has an algorithm but it works about as well as the rest of the site, so most people don't use it. You can just turn it off or never look at it and go on your merry way. There's also XKit.

OP

(Anonymous) 2023-07-05 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
I think part of the problem is that the Internet is collected in several big websites rather than just one.

Individual forums depended on moderation, but at least you could have people who were willing to take action on bad actors. The big sites either enable them because they drive traffic or coddle them because if they don’t they’ll be accused of censorship.

That’s assuming they aren’t bought up by a hostile government or billionaire like LJ or Twitter were. That’s why I prefer the Mastodon approach.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-05 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just tired of everything in fandom having to be about some political hobbyhorse or other.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-05 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
I noticed this trend in my fandoms too, but thankfully there was a lot of pushback. One of them still dealing with them, but another was able to push them to the nether almost everywhere I looked, even the Reddit forum, feels nice!

(Anonymous) 2023-07-05 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
OP

Which fandoms are they?

(Anonymous) 2023-07-05 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

exposing myself a bit but... Transformers and Bionicle, Bionicle was the one that was able to have a complete pushback.

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2023-07-05 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
I’m surprised by those two. Bionicle is pretty niche, and Transformers doesn’t seem as if it would be particularly appealing to reactionaries in its messaging.

I was a Star Wars fan. That was kind of a ground zero for this kind of thing, along with Ghostbusters.

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2023-07-05 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Hasn't this been raging in Star Wars at least since Disney decided that Rey was more force-strong than Kylo? Or am I missing something?

(Anonymous) 2023-07-05 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
I’d say it started there, but everything around The Last Jedi inflamed it.

Re: commenter above is not AYRT

(Anonymous) 2023-07-05 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
... I just didn't notice the thread title. Sorry about that.

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2023-07-05 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

All of the strange discourse in Transformers fandom these days seems to revolve around the supposed prefix "Trans". All the right wing weirdos are hyper focused on that.
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[personal profile] flibbertygigget 2023-07-05 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
This is why I only really engage with fandom on Tumblr and very small Discords. Tumblr makes it pretty easy to avoid bullshittery with the way it's set up and very small Discords allow you to gauge the tone of things pretty quickly.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-05 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
They're not on AO3. I can't imagine right wingers taking the time to read and write fanfiction.