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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-07-08 05:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #6028 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6028 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-07-08 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
That's been a thing since the beginning, though usually the translators turn these into more fantastic-ish names (like Tina into Terra or Aaron into Auron). Wonder why they stopped?

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
They probably stopped because the new translators were purists.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Which is a shame, because "Sara" would have a completely different and less ethereal/princess-like aura than "Schala," now that I think about it

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
It is nice to have fantasy names come to think of it, even if it’s going to be kinda Aerith and Bob sometimes.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-08 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't buy Children of Men at all then?

(Anonymous) 2023-07-08 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Clive...You know, saying it out loud, while ignoring all the Clives and connotations I know of, it kinda does sound nice. Like Cleave! Which is cool. Cleiiive.

Unfortunately, the first Clive that comes to my mind is the one from Maurice.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2023-07-08 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
the only one I can think of is the guy who kept screwing up Whose Line by always picking the worst possible suggestions.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Clive Anderson.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2023-07-09 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
yeah

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
Screw Clive, then!
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2023-07-09 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
he must be the world's only Brit with no sense of humor

(Anonymous) 2023-07-08 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)

But he's so lovely!

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
He truly is!

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I love Clive. He's easily one of my fave FF protagonists ever.

But when I played the demo and they called him Clive for the first time, I burst out laughing. It's such a 60-year-old man name.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, it's not hard at all to consult foreigners about the connotations a name has in other languages. Or just make something up so you don't have to worry about what it's like as a real name. I could understand it back before the internet was big, but there's no excuse today.

Clive doesn't sound bad as an FF protagonist name from my American POV, but I feel you on the problem as a whole.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
And by the way this absolutely goes the other way for Western developers. No modern high school girl is named Keiko. That's a mom or grandma name. Please.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
I didn’t know Keiko had gotten that old-fashioned, although I did know that it wasn’t as popular as it used to be.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 12:36 pm (UTC)(link)
It kind of goes every which way, though, depending on country? I met a twenty year old orchestra musician from Ukraine years ago who was named Igor, and no one there thought his parents were being mean to him, or had given him a stereotypically unattractive name. Seems that Frankenstein kind of ruined that one for Americans. But names that you would not give a baby in the US for decades are common and normal elsewhere.

And conversely, there are names that are entirely inoffensive in the US that get a really negative reaction in some other country. Studies like the ones showing that American teachers tend to discriminate against ethnic names have been done in Europe also. If you live in Germany or France, it's a bad idea to call your son "Kevin."

But all of this is cultural, and even time-period specific; there's nothing in the names that would really explain it or tip you off. For all that people tend to believe there is.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

And I for one am all for unusual names. If my mom had named me Clive for whatever goddamn sake, you can bet I would be flexing it as the coolest name ever because THIS Clive is cool really. Fiction being original, inspiring, helpful, innovative in how it interprets things, be it names, or whatever else, is never a bad thing in my book.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you entirely, anon.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It's just important to pick a name that fits the setting, and to also consider the audience. If your story is set in Ukraine, go ahead and name a young attractive male character Igor because that fits. If it's sold to international audiences and becomes popular, it could even reframe the way Americans view the name Igor (I know for sure this has actually happened, can't think of any international examples but a lot of names that were considered fuddy duddy old person names in the US are now popular again because of media going for that retro appeal.) Final Fantasy isn't set anywhere real, though, and I don't think there's any real country where Clive is used as a name in the language and viewed as fitting the type of character the game has.

(Anonymous) 2023-07-09 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just annoyed I can't showcase my love for the game by using the mains' names for pets or something - cats called Clive and Jill?? Nahh! XD
It was hard to take the name Clive seriously at first though, but I'm fine with it now. Even if I *do* occasionally hear it in Hyacinth Bucket's voice in my head, hahaha.