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[ SECRET POST #6034 ]

⌈ Secret Post #6034 ⌋

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You've done a good job showing that you have strong opinions about how other people feel about comments. However, your second sentence is a run-on. Separating the thoughts into more than one sentence would make the comment more impactful. Good luck with your commenting, and I hope you comment more soon!

I'm a writer, I don't read fic, people can leave comments if they want or not if they don't. Passively consuming things is what 80% of people who watch/read things do, fandom is no different and part of putting stuff out there is understanding that.

And from the whining I see in this thread I'm going to be very rude: if people aren't commenting on your fic then it either sucks or is very mid to the point that people having nothing to say.

I found out about fandom fairly early on in my life, but Speed Racer was the one "childhood anime" I would totally have joined the fandom for if I knew there was one. Dayummmmmmmm Racer X

For me the first time participating in fandom was Beyblade, when I was 14-15 years old.
Before that we had a very strict time limit for internet (back when you had to pay by the minute SIGH) so I could only quickly search through fanfiction and media theory forums.
The first time I could use internet I was searching through news about DragonBall GT, which was beginning to airing in my country! All those wacky OCs that all people believed were real, ahahah!
I still remember when I wanted a DBZ background for my PC and I had to wait for like 30 minutes to have it downloaded ahaha good memories

AYRT

>>is there a point where it becomes comfortable to just speak and understand, vs reading or filling out forms?
>>memorizing kanji is right out

Unfortunately memorizing kanji is how you do it... BUT you could always do it my way: playing visual novels and reading Japanese fanfiction (through pixiv) and raw doujinshi. That is how I learned most of the difficult kanji. You just read and read and read and put the kanji in context. It's how I learned English, too. Videogames and fanfiction!
Read stuff out of you comfort zone, write the stuff you don't understand down, without immediately search the meaning and trying to understand it through context first. Then, after finishing reading, search and write the kana and meaning. Put a little sentence or write about the scene you were reading about, to put some context.
Then the next day or week re-try to read the same stuff, if you can (with games it's difficult, but a lot of words repeats themselves) and see if it sticks.
Then repeat, and repeat... learning languages is a very long and tedious process. You have to find the fun in it. Do it with everything you like. Music and lyrics are good, too.
if you are more interested in business Japanese, then it's better to buy a book about business. Even a book aimed to young Japanese people! There are usually a lot of examples and you will see what real Japanese people see when they live in Japan.

Having said this, I have to be transparent: back when I was in university and I didn't have a fucked up spine, I spent at least a couple of hours every day practising writing kanji (I like writing in Japanese a lot) while having a TV show in background (usually SPN or Merlin lol it was a while ago), so I memorized kanji through repetition and muscle memory.
I also went to school and work there, so when I first went to Japan I had difficulties with paperwork myself, but then I continue to see the same stuff and it just clicked. Sometimes I forget that really specific kanji of that specific document, but usually it's always the same stuff. After a while you remember it and if you don't, you search it or ask someone else.

Writing/Drawing is how I memorize stuff + I have to put them in context. Only repeating them through stuff like anki doesn't nothing to me.

>> Still working on ni versus de and wa versus ga
The correct use of wa vs ga is difficult to Japanese people, too. Don't sweat it too much. As long as people understand you, you're fine. I speak very quickly and often do small grammatical errors. Nobody gives a shit.
Verbs are way more important, so concentrate more on that! Good luck :)

I really don't like her, but you cannot blame her for the fallout from the campaign. Budweiser though, what a bunch of freaking cowards. Way to paint a target on her then hang her out to dry.

How did you find people to co-write with? I'd love to find someone to write with.

When I wrote fanfic, I actually did it to provide a more realism-oriented take on characters or situations. I added legal immigration details to the Heroes world and showed a slash relationship somewhat averted in the world of sports circa 2010. For me, fanfic was a way to work on developing a more realism-centric style without needing to juggle a whole lot of elements (such as original character development or new plot arcs). Nowadays, I have drifted from fanfic because it's gotten easier to balance all of those elements.

Probably X-Files. I read the fic then, but I wasn't really in the fandom. I was a bit young when it all got started.

Nah, most of us can tell an insecure troll when we see one, sorry

Sorry to hear you gave up on drawing for a while. I hope you'll find your passion again!

For me drawing remained one of my main passions, but I draw mainly stuff not related to fandom, usually OCs (I just like drawing random people) or from observation now. Lately I've been practising landscapes and I really really like it. I love drawing stones and trees in graphite and playing with tones and value. I'd like to do plein air painting in the future, but I'm still working on my watercolour skills.
...I feel like these are not the skills that fandom are looking for, sadly lol

I also loathe digital drawing. Like, I LOVE LOOKING AT DIGITAL DRAWINGS. They're beautiful! I can understand and admire the skills some digital artists have, but I just don't enjoy drawing on a tablet. When I forced myself to learn how to draw fanarts on a tabled is when I was beginning to give up on art. Pen/pencil + watercolour on paper is where it's at, for me.
And that's... uhm... kind of a problem if you want to share fanarts. Taking good photos of graphite or ink & wash drawing is kind of complicated. At least, all of MY photos sucks.

I also perceive some part of fandoms to be very ageist. I'm not a teenager anymore. I'm a person in my 30s now. I know that my drawing skills are NOT 100% BAD now, especially if I'm drawing what I like, but when I see 15 years old drawing incredible stuff with incredible colours I'm like... Jesus. I can't compete in the fanart department.
IDK I just don't want to expose myself to fandom. Too intimidating.

Maybe you do. When I kudos something, it's meant to say I liked it. I just don't necessarily have words to go with the warmth.

DA

Nah.

Cabin boys

Are you just replying to comments without reading the threads now?

Actual opinion elaborated on in another thread. When you spend one line telling what you think, I'm going to respond in kind. Tersely.

I'm fine with your leaving kudos or nothing. But I'd rather you didn't judge all fanfic authors based on this OP.

No. I actually think I'd be less happy, tbh.

I welcome and appreciate short comments, but if 98% of my comments were just a basic "I liked this!" I'd figure my fic must be pretty damn bland for nobody to have more to say about it than that.

Whereas Kudos are all the same by nature, and I know for certain that a lot of people are only going to kudos regardless of how much they liked or loved the fic (which I'm totally cool with), so a whole bunch of kudos without comments dont make me feel like my fic must be too bland to say anything about the was a couple hundred identical "I liked this!" comments would.

Not going to invalidate your diagnosis because 1) I don't care and it's not useful to the conversation 2) I'm not your doctor 3) I don't know you, but you know that there are different people out there that can have the same diagnosis as you and completely different triggers, right?

I suffer from anxiety disorder and OCD and back when I tried to comment on fics/fanarts to express my gratitude I spent a minimum of 30 minutes to even write three sentences and then continue to refresh the page to see if the author was responding to me. While imagining all the scenarios where I gravely offended the author and any other person who came across to my comment.

I gave up on commenting years ago because it isn't sustainable to me. I wish I could not care about other people's reaction to my comments online, but I CAN'T. I care about the authors' feelings too much and I guilt trip myself into thinking I've offended them while I'm saying a simple "thank you". I know it's messed up.
F!S is one of the only online spaces I can write on because I'm anon and generally nobody cares that much about what I'm writing, I think.

Meanwhile, IRL I have way less anxiety speaking to strangers (even less than you possibly) because I can see the reactions other people have to what I'm saying right in front of me, thus adjusting my speaking manner and trying to explain myself better. We are all different.
Even if YOU CAN comment to fics with no problem, it doesn't mean that other people can, too.

It should be too hard to understand this and every time we have there types of conversation here on F!S I grow more tired and tired...

I'm a bit irritated by how one of my fandoms tends to emphasize top/bottom dynamics when writing a certain ship. I almost never see this ship written differently. It's fine if others like it, just not what I want to read 100% of the time.

They were friends/we were mutual fans of each other's writing, and we got to chatting and stuff, talking about our perceptions of the characters and whatnot, and that grew to wanting to put our own spin on stories and events and things.
I would write (mostly) one character - say, Spike, and they would (mostly) write another, say Xander. And we'd decide ahead of time where we wanted that chapter or whatever to go, and then just dive in.

I think it helps if you already know the person a bit before hand.
Probably there is a community somewhere on DW that caters to that, or to finding friends of like mind.....
I hope you find someone!

There was another secret like this the other day, and yes it's making it annoyed, lmao, I almost think it's on purpose.

well, this was a secret huh?

I get the feeling, but you're 100% on the verge of monkey's paw imo.

DA

It's my impression that often "the fics people work hardest at" aren't the easiest for everyone else to connect with. I don't think they're any less valuable, but they're sort of on a pedestal for the writer because that one demanded a lot from them.

I will always have a special relationship with the fics that I struggled with, and I like to think the ones where things fall into place owe some of their grace to the ones where it very much didn't. But ... it wasn't much fun to feel like I was cutting myself against jagged obsidian, either, so I kind of get it when readers prefer the others.

This goes into something that I think people should think about more:

a) understanding the possible consequences of something does not mean you cannot criticize a specific consequence. this wasn't inevitable at any point, and since it wasn't, you can criticize the people who brought it about.

b) hope/trust is good actually.

c) it's good to see where the line is so you know where to start digging

d) it's a good idea to be public about those companies whom you cannot trust and can expect no hope. it's good for society.

e) bud has an responsibility to mulvaney and it's good to enforce reasonable expectations on entities with power, even if you know they will use their power irresponsibly. they should never be free from the weight of their obligations even when they keep trying to shove them off.

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