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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-08-01 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #6052 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6052 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-08-01 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no idea what this means.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-01 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no idea what this means and I'm pretty sure it's gotta be nonsense

I learned something new today

(Anonymous) 2023-08-02 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Had to look up what "nepo-baby" was:
"Nepotism baby, shortened to nepo baby, is a term referring to the children of celebrities who have succeeded in careers, usually the same, or adjacent, career to their celebrity parents or other esteemed relatives. The implication is that, because their parents already had connections to an industry, the child was able to use those connections to build a career in that industry."

So I guess the character is sad she had to work hard and didn't have nepotism on her side? I mean who among us poor hard working folk wouldn't like a little nepotism now and then.

Re: I learned something new today

(Anonymous) 2023-08-02 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
Her mom was the director of Marvel's latest secret agency of incompetence, Sword, but died of cancer. Monica felt she should have got the job automatically (because primogeniture is totally how government agencies work) but she got Thanosed, and when she came back someone else had the job. Monica spent most of Wandavision being upset she wasn't handed the guy's job as soon as she was undusted. That just screams of nepo-baby entitlement.

Re: I learned something new today

(Anonymous) 2023-08-02 11:41 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the background! I didn't watch WandaVision. Bit honestly, it screams a little bit nepotism but a little bit rightful anger at a traumatic event and losing out on a life you worked to get and lost put on due to nothing you could control. I'd be angry too.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-02 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
...nepo-baby? Nepo of what?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-02 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Nepo-baby of SWORD I'm guessing? Like I'm confused because this comes off as reading that Monica should have inherited a high position at SWORD due to her mom?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-02 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
She outright, in dialogue, said that she out to have had the position for that exact reason.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-03 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
No, she said she wanted her old job back, the one she had before the snap.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-08-02 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
monica's already a nepo-baby, by virtue of joining SWORD when her mother was director. her trying to get her position back after the snap is just regular old wanting her job back.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-02 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
Part of her characterization was that she held a grudge against the post snappening director of Sword because she felt she should have stepped into her mother's shoes after reincorporating from the snap.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-08-02 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
what episode is this said in? the only time they mention the exchange from Maria to Tyler that I remember is when Tyler says that she should have been there to choose the next director, and then they joke that Tyler was the only choice.

she holds a grudge against Carol for not coming back, iirc.
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[personal profile] erinptah 2023-08-02 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it seems clear that Monica was on her way up the career ladder at SWORD because she was good at it. Cared about the organization. Had the relevant skills and experience. After being un-snapped, she slides right back in to the first available SWORD assignment, and what do you know, she's good at that too.

Interpreting that as "oh no, she wasn't skilled or experienced at all, she only expected the job because of her family connections!" just sounds like racism, tbh.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2023-08-02 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
And it's explicitly mentioned that her pre-snap job, astronaut, is something she did good work in, and that she simply dislikes not being able to do that job. She complains about protocol that she's grounded, yeah, but again, it's about her original job, and she doesn't complain about the investigation she's sent to do.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-02 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it sure was weird that Monica seemed to think she should be in charge of SWORD. Granted, she couldn't have done a worse job than anyone else but still.

The real Monica is so damn cool. Hopefully she'll be the best part of the next movie.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-02 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Is nepotism the new buzzword we're ascribing moral failing to now? I hate to break it to you OP and other anons in this thread but nepotism happens everywhere, including in low-wage jobs. You have likely benefited from nepotism without knowing through something as simple as knowing someone who works there, hell one of the asked questions when I was job-hunting was 'do you know anyone who works here' because if you do you are much more likely to get hired.

Also idk why OP and someone else in this thread is lying but Monica isn't mad she doesn't have her mum's position, she's mad her OLD job was taken from her and she doesn't get it back after coming back from being dead. Which idk about you but I'd be fucking pissed about.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-02 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought nepotism was specifically family, not just a "knowing someone as an in" thing.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-02 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it can also apply to someone hiring their friends, too.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-02 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT.

It absolutely applies to being friends with employees as well, or being friendly with the boss. It's all about having a leg-up into getting hired by a company that others don't have because people are just more likely to hire someone that someone else in the company knows. Hell it's what networking is all about: getting friendly with someone in a company so when it comes to you applying they'll be more likely to hire you.

It's just more visibly obvious when it happens in Hollywood because they're in the public eye so people can idk cast moral judgements on people just getting work.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-03 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
I think this stretches the term to an illogical conclusion.

When figuring out who to hire, for most jobs that involve working with people as well as doing some task, the point is partly qualifications and partly trying to pick someone who will get along with the existing workforce. The company is at a disadvantage when it has to pick between unknown candidates, but if one or more of the people already doing the job are willing to put their reputation on the line and vouch for a potential employee, that's often job-relevant information. It can backfire, but there are a lot of situations where new people feel more of a responsibility to learn quickly and do a good job when they're working with their friends.

Whereas, with family nepotism or other kinds of in-group-ism, there's an implicit assumption that, one, someone else might have been more suited to the work and wasn't hired, and two, the person who was hired might slack off because they think the chances of their ever losing the job are much lower.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-03 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
It's used both ways. You're not wrong, though: I think the useage has been diluted from people levelling nepotism accusations at situations where especially cushy and well paid positions went to the spouses, cousins, children, etc. of CEOs, to this "if you know someone you have an 'unfair' hiring advantage, regardless of whether it's a desirable job."