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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-08-11 04:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #6062 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6062 ⌋

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SA

(Anonymous) 2023-08-11 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Like there has to be some nuance, or you get the "one person on Tumblr staff had Drarry fanart in their header, therefore that person is a terf and any moderation against harassment campaigns on this flimsy basis proves that the rest of staff is also terfs" kind of thinking.

But also. How can people not even be a little skeeved out?

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2023-08-11 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
If someone still has Drarry fanart in their header (assuming the blog is still being posted to and not just abandoned and unchanged out of laziness) I'd be weirded out just because it's so old now. What is it like 20+ years old?

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2023-08-11 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
The header of my blog is for a show that's ten years old. I still regularly post about it. Exactly what is the "weird" divide for being a fan of media property? When will my header weird you out? Has it already happened? What date, exactly?

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(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, is it about two preteen boys in love that you've been obsessed with and still are now that you're 30+ years old?

If so, yes it will weird me out anon and for p good reason

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(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I'll ship what I want for as long as it entertains me, thanks very much. You can go be weirded out in a corner.

But we all know that THAT isn't what weirded out AIRT. They mentioned ages of characters not at all. They mentioned the age of the media. So why are you trying to derail?

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
You are really offended by one anon on the internet thinks is weird, tbh. And yeah, I was gonna think it was weird whether or not I had your permission, y'know.

And uh it's kinda implied in "Drarry" which is generally not set when they're adults.

You want to rock a 20 year old show in your header? You go for it. Have you seen me complain that someone has the original Star Wars? Nope. But if you're gonna put up, as a grown adult, romantic fanart of teenagers from a children's book in your blog, uh.

Kinda weird.

Go ahead and defend it some more, though.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
See below, weirdo.

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(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
it's kinda implied in "Drarry" which is generally not set when they're adults.

NAYRT - Tell me you know fuck all about Drarry without telling me you know fuck all about Drarry, lol.

Also, everything AYRT said is spot on, and you're a nitwit.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
Oh right, to be clear, the "old" was in reference to the ship (of children in a childrens book that we have all far outgrown in years) not "old" as in reference to canon. Drarry is old. Aged badly, at that.

Your anger about being called old or weird is funny though. As a fellow old, you gotta learn to not care what rando anons think.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, they weren't kidding when they said we were in a literacy crisis.

Ok. So lets break down exactly what is going on here.

First off, I don't go here. I am absolutely a fandom old and HP was out well after my childhood. It's not my thing. My ten year old fandom involves dudes in their 40s, so to have a lot of people throwing "omg they're teenagers you perv" at me is hysterical. Y'all got some kneejerk reactions going on here that you really should talk to a professional about.

The whole reason I got involved in this conversation is because A) I'm seeing more and more people try to push fandom elders out because it's "weird" and women aren't allowed to have hobbies and they should be taking care of kids or keeping house or doing their taxes or something and B) this idea that fandom has an expiration date.

"I'd be weirded out just because it's so old now. What is it like 20+ years old?"

So what? People still fan Star Trek and Star Wars and Dracula, etc etc etc. Why are you getting your panties in a twist and being weirded out by someone being in a fandom 25 years younger than those? That was the point of my questions. Do you have some expiration date on your fandoms? Is that a precedent you really want to set for yourself and others? Why?

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(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
Drarry was the seventh most popular ship of 2022 based on AO3 stats, and AYRT seems to think the characters are their canon ages in most of the fic (spoiler: that is not the case). AYRT is either exceptionally ignorant and totally oblivious to how much of an ass they're making of themselves, or they're trolling.

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(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT is so mad about being called old that it's funny though. This is the funniest thread I've been in in a while. The best part to me is I might be older than they are, if they're mad about someone calling their children's book fandom old, or the young whippersnappers taking over fandom

Like, call me when you're old enough to have moved on past that like the rest of us gramps, until then they'll continue to be hilarious

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
??? No, I'm not? That's an assumption on your part that I think goes hand in hand with the being weirded out by old fandoms thing. You seem to have some kind of issue with growing older.

I've been in fandom since I was 13, I totally had been in a single fandom for ten years when I was 23 and I'd still be just as confused by the idea that I "should have moved on" by then. Why? Do you have some expiration date on your fandoms? Is that a precedent you really want to set for yourself and others? Why?

And again, showing that you didn't bother to even read what I said.

First off, I don't go here. I am absolutely a fandom old and HP was out well after my childhood. It's not my thing. My ten year old fandom involves dudes in their 40s, so to have a lot of people throwing "omg they're teenagers you perv" at me is hysterical. Y'all got some kneejerk reactions going on here that you really should talk to a professional about.

So actually READ that and then tell me about how I'm mad about calling my children's book fandom old when I'm not even in it. ????

If you are older than me, you seriously need to get checked for dementia, cause your ability to understand the written word is shit.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
You're getting super super mad about a comment about a ship involving children being old, and keep insisting on reading what I said the way you want to read it instead of what I just told you I meant.

But yeah I'd say my fandoms that involved shipping canon teenagers which Drarry absolutely is, most def had an expiration date and I'd find it weird if I were still obsessed with them at my age.

Damn, sometimes I feel like the only fandom old that got more relaxed as I got older. Someone thinks I'm weird for thinking something? Ok, shrug.

This is super amusing to me ngl

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you.... do you not know that they weren't teenagers by the end? Do you not understand how time works?

Fandom is not perishable. It has no expiration date.

Go take your dogwhistle for pedo somewhere else.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2023-08-13 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Heya. Not going to keep hanging around in this thread reading what people replied to you, because they seem exceptionally unreasonable and awful.

Just commenting because I think you're making an entirely valid point and all the petty whispers about being 'the wrong kind of person' if you get into fandom while very underage or remain here too long past teenagerhood are mean-spirited as fuck. Don't let them get you down, anon. There's lots of us that love the writing and the company of people who are old enough to have been in fandom for a long, long time.

And yeah - the posturing about its being somehow bad to stay in fandoms that aren't bringing out new products every year is just another way to keep people on the treadmill of paying for the latest crap. When there are mountains of good books and good movies and there's actually nothing anyone can do about your enjoying them. So, let the miserable keep being as unhinged as they (apparently) are, and I hope you carry on with the stories that make your heart sing.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Also "header that features an old show" is not the same as "header of slash ship fanart of a ship usually involving young teenagers" and why would you even read it that way?

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Because the person I responded to didn't say anything about it? Did you read it at all?

Literally - "I'd be weirded out just because it's so old now. What is it like 20+ years old?"

Where does young teenagers come into this?

And even if it was about young teenagers, why do you care? I'll ship what I want, thanks very much.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2023-08-12 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Plus it's common for HP ship art and fic involving the students to be set when they're grown up, so "Drarry header" could easily feature adult Harry and Draco. (Not that it matters how old they are, but HP is a weird fandom to assume they'd be their book-canon ages in.)