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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-08-19 04:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #6070 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6070 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen this happen but IME it's like 90% "I mispronounced it by accident but people are commenting on it so I'm leaving it as is and/or turning it into a recurring joke now" and very rarely "I'm gonna say it weird on purpose to fool these foolish viewers, rubbing my hands capitalistically and twirling my mustache"

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Or, third option: Youtube for example autoscans and demonetizes videos that mention certain words so certain channels (e.g. a channel discussing news and crime) do it on purpose to avoid being flagged by bots

TW for mention of rape/sexual assault

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh. I mean, it's possible, but I watch a lot of true crime videos, and that's not what they do to avoid getting flagged for words like "rape", "sexual assault", etc. They either just blank it out entirely or go for a more vague euphemism. One that I've seen is calling it "abuse" when what they very clearly mean was "rape". I have never seen any video where the narrator pronounces it "rope" or "beck-sall asphalt" or whatever.

Re: TW for mention of rape/sexual assault

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Channels dedicated to true crime do that because it comes up often enough for it to be a thing yeah. But channels about say movie reviews where they're discussing celebrity crimes that come up, or gaming where they're discussing sexual harassment in the workplace as one-off topics, I've seen pronounce the words badly on purpose

Re: TW for mention of rape/sexual assault

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
How do they pronounce them?

Re: TW for mention of rape/sexual assault

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
It's hard to describe in text, but I've heard like... assolt? and rape being extended to be a two-syllable sound? I remember being super confused by it then reading in the video descriptions that it's for algorithm reasons

Re: TW for mention of rape/sexual assault

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha, wow, that's bizarre.

Re: TW for mention of rape/sexual assault

(Anonymous) 2023-08-20 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
I've hear some YouTubers say "grape" to get around it.

Re: TW for mention of rape/sexual assault

(Anonymous) 2023-08-20 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Monetization or no, anyone who can't say a word shouldn't be discussing that subject imo. Or if you're SO concerned, find a way to censor without making a fucking joke of it. Drop the audio, use a bleep, state it outright in the beginning that the audio will be janky because youtube is stupid, but don't call it "grape"

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
The people abusing the algorithm for profit thank you for your pollyanna-esque charity.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Hanlon's Razor

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that the one that says never accept stupidity as a reason before malice has been excluded? It is a good rule to live by.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
The opposite, but you do you

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Then that is a bad rule that leaves you wide open to exploitation by bad faith actors.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, it's just different kinds of cynicism. You think people are evil/selfish/malicious, and I think people are, generally speaking, often stupid/silly at times. The latter has been proven to be true in my experience wayyyy more often than the former, because stupidity transcends morality/intent

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it is recognizing one bad faith actor can do a shit ton more damage than a dozen clueless fools. You have to rule out the former before you can accept the latter. Accepting the excuse of the latter just means you can be destroyed by a single one of the former, no matter how rare they are. Stop making it easy for mendacious bastards.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Walking around worrying about being destroyed by everyone I meet isn't worth my time or effort (nor am I worth the time and effort to destroy), but neither is trying to convince random internet people to agree with me, so again, you do you and go on with yourself if that's what you want to do

But man, this thread does prove that people desperately gotta correct people they're convinced are wrong, doesn't it?

(Anonymous) 2023-08-20 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
+1000000

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
In my experience, it usually isn't bad actors pretending to be stupid who do the most damage; it's bad actors who use the language and morés of a particular group to appear to give themselves cover. See: vocal male "feminists" who turn out to be abusers in private.

The real danger doesn't come from assuming stupidity rather than malice; it comes from people's desire to see themselves as Good. "I'm a good person, therefore the in-group I've chosen is good, therefore members of my in-group are good."

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
This has been my experience too.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-19 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by stupidity. Humans are far more likely to be idiots than evil masterminds.

(Anonymous) 2023-08-20 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
And even people who want to be evil masterminds are generally too stupid to be successful at it.