[ SECRET POST #6072 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6072 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Jojo's Bizarre Adventure]



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[fscom]

08. https://i.imgur.com/IdkigQO.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Its not bad to have a preference, you enjoy what you like OP!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm the opposite. Reading about women's pleasure just bores me. I'm a woman who can experience a woman's pleasure firsthand, reading about it feels watered down. Or maybe that's just the excuse I tell myself because I'm a sheep who believes only men's pleasure is important because society told me so.

SA

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry OP, that sounded a lot like a snarky attack on you, but I didn't want for it to be. It's a real insecurity I have about myself but maybe this was the wrong place to vent it.

[(Anonymous)]

In regards to your final sentence: um...what?

[(Anonymous)]

I meant I'm worried that the reason reading about women's pleasure bores me is actually because society has taught me subliminally that it's unimportant. I'm worried that I only tell myself it bores me because it can't compare to the firsthand experience, because I don't want to confront the truth about why it bores me.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I guess that could be true. On the other hand, it could just be that you're straight - the male side is more interesting because you're attracted to men, not women.

I know I personally like reading about women's pleasure in part because, well, I'm attracted to women! It's hot because I'm imagining being the source of their pleasure, not because I'm imagining that it's me. If I were only attracted to men, I figure the female side probably wouldn't appeal to me as much.

I guess what I'm trying to say is don't be too rough on yourself, anon. It's probably just your orientation, and it's normal.

[(Anonymous)]

I think we shouldn't over analyze our kinks and preferences too much, it's some anti shit. Yes, it's fun sometimes to find a source. And yes, a lot of our kinks string from our not so perfect society. But it's on us to change society and ourselves for the better, but it's not on us to change our kinks. They are just fantasies and brain wiring. So you prefer reading about some dick and OP prefers to read about vulvas. It's OK either way

[tabaqui]

It's a lot more about having zero desire to immerse myself in female POV sex scenes (or even male POV sex scenes that are m/f), because I have zero desire to be HAVING sex, and am very much put off by reading about a character that could be me (generally and biologically speaking).

Got nothing to do with prioritizing men's pleasure over mine; the m/m smut I write (and read) is a puppet show, all there for my enjoyment and titillation.

[(Anonymous)]

See, I DO like sex but I still have zero desire to immerse myself in sex scenes involving female characters because I'm reading about the character and not myself? I want to read about what THEY'RE feeling and enjoying in the moment, which has absolutely nothing to do with what I myself like.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm an ace person who likes both, but I do tend to gravitate more towards M/M, definitely for the reasons you describe here. For me it's not that I can't/don't also enjoy M/F, so much as that it's just easier to relax and enjoy when it's M/M.

(Oddly I don't get into F/F at all. I'm honestly not totally sure why. Some kind of vestigial hetero leanings, possibly? *shrugs*)

[(Anonymous)]

That’s fair. I read everything, m/m, m/f and f/f but there is definitely a big disappointment when I get into a het ship and the smut fic is 99% about pleasing the guy and his pleasure. This doesn’t bother me in m/m for obvious reasons, but if the woman’s pleasure is treated as secondary or not important in m/f I fucking hate it.

There’s already enough of that garbage drilled into us socially, I am not interested in reading fanfic that regurgitates the same bullshit.

[(Anonymous)]

+1, though I find m/f being all about the man is MUCH less of a problem in fic* than it is in the media it comes from. I have had very, very few m/f ships in media (and none currently) but several I'll happily read in fic.

*Except in those kinds of fics where a male character goes and fucks women from all different shows, but they're easy to avoid.

[jayla_kaye]

To be honest this is why in my adult/nsfw art stuff I tend to make "female pov" my thing in a lot of my stuff. The main characters are girls , there's usually at least one major f/f pairing but some m/f pairings if i feel it but the focus is on a girl's POV.

Mostly because there's so much r34 and smut art that focuses on guys. Or a girl's pov that's so obviously written by a guy in horny mode . I guess I'm just here to put the gal POV /focus out there.

Which is to say . I getchu OP

[(Anonymous)]

Meanwhile I'm over here being happy every time I find the rare story that isn't all about the bottom's pleasure regardless of whether they're male or female.

Most het stuff is receiver-focused too, even if it's the guy's POV.

[(Anonymous)]

I have a problem with some female-pleasure stuff because people made a sort of... personality that they gave to being the 'receiver.' And it's impossible to find (cis) female pleasure that isn't like that, because anything involving the female body unless she's just performing oral on another woman is about being the 'receiver.'

I hate feeling like a passive object that's being acted on by an active partner. I hate feeling submissive. I hate feeling needy/bratty/childlike/emotional but paired with a Stoic and Manly partner. I hate having to have a partner who is masculine, stoic, cocky, teasing, the Subject instead of the object.

But those are all thing people have applied to 'person who isn't penetrating someone' and unless you have a penis, you're not getting physical pleasure from penetrating someone, so physical pleasure has to come with an interpersonal role that makes me want to be sick if the character has a female body. And this is why I'm sure I would hate actual sex too.

[(Anonymous)]

Oof I feel for you OP. Also def get why this is a secret, though i wish i didn't. You like what you like and there should be no shame in that! Personally I detest reading about vaginas or female bodied pleasure, but I totally support you doing your thing.

[(Anonymous)]

As long as you're enjoying yourself and having fun, 'cause that's what matters!

[(Anonymous)]

The choice of picture for this secret... was it intentional?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeping_Hermaphroditus

[junee]

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that!

[(Anonymous)]

Can definitely relate in some ways OP. Your preferences are your own and it's good you know what you like and what you don't like.

I think we need to in general remember that personal preferences are OK and it's cool not everyone likes the same things.

I never took into consideration that female readers would want things solely from the male POV until I began writing RPF with self-inserts and the fandom I wrote for had so many 2nd and 3rd person narratives that had zero to little focus on how the self-insert/reader felt or thought.
I thought it was really weird because I'm AFAB and lean towards being attracted towards men and both printed smut and fanfics that appealed to me were more from the POV/focus of female pleasure.

I began changing up the POVs in my writings because I do want to expand my writing skills and I want to be more mindful of how there are two people in a relationship, not just the POV character or the protagonist.
But I do tend to not like solely Male POV fics (for M/F fics) because there's usually a voice at the back of head saying, "God I'm so fucking sick of everything being fucking centered around men."

It's a personal thing, I know!!

Everyone enjoys their smut for whatever reasons, I know! What I think is just about me and my POV and preferences.

[(Anonymous)]

My reason for mostly reading m/m has definitely changed over time. Being in the closet and having REALLY low self-esteem as a teen, I just couldn't handle reading any f/f or any sapphic media because it made me too sad with the belief that it would be something that I'd never have.
Whereas with m/m it felt like a weird compromise for myself so I got to read about queer characters without thinking too much about my own situation. IDK if that makes any sense, but my main excuse for that was being an angsty teenager that loved romance - but didn't relate to the at-the-time mainly hetro romances in mainstream media, but didn't want to be reminded what I couldn't have/be apart of via women's romance.

That being said, I grew out of that kind of thinking (although still in the closet due to living circumstances and probably not gonna date anyone for mental health reasons lol). I read almost anything now because I'm still a sucker for romance and enjoy re-imagining fave characters in different scenarios. Admittedly I still read more m/m than f/f, but that's mostly down to the fandom's I've landed in recent years.

[(Anonymous)]

*I mostly mention romance, but I also meant smut too as a combo with romance.

[(Anonymous)]

There shouldn't be any shame in enjoying what you enjoy-- especially when that thing is f/f. But also, I mean... it's got nothing to do with what you think about queer men in the real world, and everything to do with what you have FUN with! If you're not going to enjoy reading about men's sexual experience/pleasure, then yeah, m/m is not for you.

I still remember when it was hard to find a lot of good ANYTHING that wasn't just m/f... though the m/f I did read back then usually did focus more on the woman's experience/pleasure! I don't know what the m/f landscape is like nowadays, because... well, now I know I'm a gay man. There are m/f ships I love, but I don't tend to want to focus on the sex they have. Same tends to be the case with f/f ships, I know that's not what I'm into if it's smut, but when it's not smut, I like to see the girls I like together get together! (or, I'll skim past the smutty parts and focus on the other parts of the romance, it's all good-- I mean with some f/f ships you really take what you can get! I keep falling for the rarepairs...)

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty much any mainstream and other published erotica for straight women focuses on the woman's pleasure. That means romance novels, otome games, and even works that have been deemed decidedly regressive for feminism like 50 Shades of Grey. So if the m/f you read back in the day was that kind of thing, or fanfic aimed at women, it's to be expected that it was like that, and it doesn't seem to have changed.