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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2023-11-20 07:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #6163 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6163 ⌋

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Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
I suspect most users on Kiwifarms are perfectly fine with trans people who don't do things to make themselves into lolcows.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
lolcows?

Re: OP

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2023-11-21 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Have you seen all the things these sorts of people (even on Encyclopedia Dramatica where "lolcow" arguably originated) consider "worthy" of the label lolcow?

When I was 16/17ish a girl in my fandom around my age had her own page just for being 1.) a teenage girl 2.) dumb and cringe online in the way teens ARE 3.) having a fancharacter.

Literally. The most basic silly teenage kid thing in the world.

They also tend to see people like "autists" inherently mock worthy for existing.
The whole concept of lolcow is fucking ableist bullying of mentally ill and young people. It's akin to a playground bully shoving a younger/weaker kid down and then mocking them for crying.

It's disgusting. LGBTQ, neurodivergent and mentally ill people are not your entertainment source. They're human beings.
Edited 2023-11-21 01:28 (UTC)

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
LGBTQ, neurodivergent, disabled, and mentally ill people are all there as users.

It's not your fault that you weren't taught resilience, but the world doesn't owe you anything. No one has any requirement to like you or be nice to you merely because you happen to have some identity marker, and the whole idea that they do leads to people with certain identity markers thinking they can be absolute abusive pieces of shit.

You wanna be seen as human? Stop asking to be treated like you're something different, someone who should be set apart. And log off if you don't like what you see on Kiwifarms of all places, a forum you can't even get to now unless you try really, really hard to find it. I don't even know how to get to it, and here you are talking like you're there on the regular. It's your own fault if you're actively seeking out places that make you upset, and seeking them so hard that you have to use fucking Tor to get to them.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Wooooow. This is awful.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing awful about it, unless you think LGBTQ, neurodivergent, disabled, and mentally ill people should be condescended to like children.

This is not even to mention all the oxygen that's been taken up by privileged high-functioning people, who seem to make it their mission in life to destroy all services and treatment for those who cannot survive without intensive care. "My autism is TWEE and makes me QUIRKY! Suggesting that low-functioning autistic people exist oppresses me!" Okay, now that non-verbal girl who bangs her head against the wall all day long can't get the care she needs because you've made it all about you, TikTok influencer who lives independently.

DA

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
So you're an asshole got it.
The only people I've seen claiming that all people in those groups are demanding to be condescended to or treated special are you fuckers.

A lot of us just want to be treated like people. And part of that is not dogged, harassed or baited like a bunch of fucking high school bully level assholes who never grew out of it.

"life is hard sweety get used to it" Most of the people with this attitude are people who want the world to be hard , so they have an excuse to be awful

No most people aren't like you. Plenty of people are considerate and understanding and willing to be fucking open minded. You keep saying "oh plenty of people on KF are those things too"

Yeah? Doesn't excuse it. Doesn't make it okay.
The people who aren't okay with those harassing doxxing bullying assholes are not just "people who want to be treated like special snowflakes" . I've seen people who support that site justifying it with shit like this "Well those people we make fun of are because they're all awful so its allright"
Yeah , them being allegedly awful doesn't mean you aren't.
Fuck off and get a decent personality you shitstain.
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Re: DA

[personal profile] cakemage 2023-11-21 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
+1000000

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
The funny thing about all of this is that I've never been to Kiwifarms. But you guys, you guys standing on your high horses - you have, for some reason. And you're mad about what you've seen there, about this place that you know is awful but that you've actively sought out. You don't have to go there. It's really easy not to, especially now.

The world is hard. You know where that attitude comes from? Not from wanting to be awful, but from experiencing awful things, and then seeing a bunch of very comfortable people who've been made fun of on the internet, on sites that they don't have to go to, talk about how bad they have it. It is the height of privilege. There are cis, straight, able-bodied people out there getting bombed to death right now. You don't suddenly become immune to awful things once you cease to be whatever marginalized identity you belong to. Suffering itself is a part of being human, a part of being alive, so "being treated like people" doesn't get you out of it. Great if it did, but it doesn't.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
9.9 oh fuck off and spare me.

I don't GO to kiwifarms because I stopped caring about their opinion. But I am aware of the effect they and people who like to make a sport of needling "lolcows" have on people.
People kill themselves. Not because they're weak but because it gets to a point where death and the nothingness of non existence is more appealing than continuing to live and have anything you say or do used to further mock you

All I'm saying is that kiwifarms BULLY people and that's shitty of them. Having a hard life yourself doesn't excuse looking down on people because you think they aren't handling things as well as you think they should be. Thats how you come off by saying "well they just shouldn't be lolcows then"

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
At the end of the day, what all this amounts to is an argument that a lot of people should not be on the internet. And, really, the internet was a mistake; it amplifies parts of ourselves that are better left quiet.

But I still have a hard time with the idea that people who deliberately seek out places where they know they're going to be miserable aren't somewhat responsible for that misery. There's an easy solution for the problem, and for some reason, everyone is against it (is everyone an addict at this point? Probably!).

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
You are unhinged

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
OH OH AND ANOTHER THING that comes from all you "compassionate" people!

This idea that it's ableist to suggest that someone might not want to be disabled, because "disabled people can live just as full lived as able-bodied people." Like, fuck you. You think a paralyzed person doesn't ever think, "man, I wish I wasn't paralyzed," not due to SOCIETY, but because being paralyzed fucking sucks? You think someone with a chronic illness wants to get rid of it only due to SOCIETY, and not because having a chronic illness fucking sucks? You think someone with an amputated limb only misses that limb due to SOCIETY, and not because losing a limb fucking sucks? You think when my partner was shitting himself, when he was in constant debilitating pain; when he had surgery to remove his colon, and had to deal with an ostomy bag; and then had to have a second surgery on top of that, he was thinking, "if only SOCIETY weren't ableist, all of this would be perfectly fine and dandy, because I am living as full a life as a person without this condition?"

It's all fucking bullshit from comfortable, self-absorbed kids who think any discomfort at all is the same thing as actual hardship, and who want to be the center of everything, and in the course of their supposed thirst for justice take all of the resources away from the people who could use them most.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Oh wow ... you're just disgusting aren't you
Yawn opinion discarded.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
Good to know you think it's disgusting to be angry that people who are suffering from severe disabilities get overlooked.

Re: OP

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2023-11-21 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
No I think it's disgusting how you categorize people with functioning labels and say they're taking up resources because they are able to "appear" like they have less need and pass as "normal". Even if it leaves them exhausted at the end of the day.

You know what I used to do at my long meals breaks when I worked at Walmart? To deal with the stress and strain of things? I set an alarm so I wouldn't overstay my break and I SLEPT. I slept at my meal breaks rather than eat because of the mental strain of a stressful work environment that started ignoring issues and needs I had, because I can look normal "enough" .

You know how stressed I was because of that? Because of the sheer stress of trying to pretend to pass myself off as normal and then having my needs and issued ignored. I literally STOPPED having a period. Which for some women happens under intense or serious amounts of stress. The last time I had that issue (and not even for as long as I had it at Walmart) was because my mother was dying

Maybe you should consider that just because a person on the spectrum looks like they're getting by allright IT DOESN'T FUCKING MEAN THEY ARE!!! and that's why people often get mad about functioning labels and how seemingly minor needs autistic people are treated. And then we have shitstains who think that we're taking up resources.
Fuck you.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the people out there who advocate for ending services and/or treatment for severely disabled autistic people because they don't need them, and take any suggestion that someone else might as a personal affront. I'm taking about people who literally try to take resources away from others. You trying your best to live your life with the hand you've been dealt is not that.

Re: OP

[personal profile] dani_phantasma - 2023-11-21 03:09 (UTC) - Expand

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Ahhh, you're an asshole. You can gtfo and go back to 8chan.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Holy fuck, go deepthroat a cactus you pathetic piece of subhuman filth.

You're an abusive prick and I hope you end up cold, alone and in a tiny shithole apartment wondering where your life went wrong.

OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I used to follow someone Kiwifarms considered one of the good ones. He was very careful about which things he talked about to which groups of people, because he’d be a “lolcow” if they knew more about him.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
And yet he was there, talking to them. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Impossible to take you seriously when you talk like that.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
The people who think they're the most understanding have so many qualifications for what they'll attempt to understand.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
People have zero understanding of why you would waste your time on this lolcow shit, yeah.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-11-21 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
You can log off the internet. You can't log off someone bombing your house.