[ SECRET POST #6168 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6168 ⌋

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Re: Who is Your Least Favorite Character?

[(Anonymous)]

It is not moral to sacrifice someone because you've decided it's the right thing to do, without them having a say or a choice in the matter.

Where did that come in? Where did I say that I would outright MURDER them if they said no, they didn't want to? This is in the context of the game, where Ellie has said that she wants to do the procedure. We can debate on whether or not she had full informed consent, but the fact of the matter is that Joel didn't care about her consent or her choices. JOEL didn't want her to die, so he took her and lied to her. It doesn't matter if she actually had informed consent or not because it doesn't change any of Joel's actions.

She didn't have informed consent? Joel killed the doctor, took her and lied to her about why the procedure didn't happen.

She did have informed consent? Joel killed the doctor, took her and lied to her about why the procedure didn't happen.

Because it was never about her. It's never about what she wanted. It was ALL about Joel.

If my child, my mom, my wife, were told "Hey, you are the only hope we have of developing a vaccine against this thing that is slowly killing the entire human race. We will need to use your brain to do it. Please come to X hospital," and they were as committed to getting there as Ellie is, I would (hopefully) help bring them to X hospital and um... not kill the doctors doing it? Cause invalidating someone's choices is a shitty thing to do normally, but to do it when the fate of the world also hangs on you not being a dick you've become a superdick. A massive asshole. A terrible person.