[ SECRET POST #6182 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6182 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Yep, because watching one single TV show absolutely defines every facet of a person's political leanings, activities, and behavior.

What about people who watch Downton Abbey reruns and then immediately switch over to RTD's 'uber-woke, left-libtard' Doctor Who specials? Are they ultra-right for one hour, then ultra-left for the next??

[(Anonymous)]

Oh how shocking that the guy who wrote Downton Abbey and Gosford Park is a tory.

If it bugs you, buy books secondhand so you're not paying him.

[(Anonymous)]

It's interesting, because Gosford Park comes across as so contemptuous of the wealthy, and as being very much in the servants' corner.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt - Agreed. I enjoyed the film because of the contrast between the upstairs vs. downstairs, plus murder mystery, plus Helen Mirren. A+ cast overall, really.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I really liked Gosford Park, so started watching Downton Abbey, enjoyed the first season (with one maid getting a non-service job because her new employer's mother had been a maid and he knew how hard they worked, and the medical storyline with the doctor refusing expensive treatment to the farmer) but then the show just completely lost interest in anything where there was any opposition to the bosses.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't vet the creators, producers, actors, writers, set design, costume design, grip, best boy, etc etc etc of every show I watch. Because watching a show is not activism. Being in a fandom is not activism. The job you do, the types of food you eat, the clothes you wear, the shows you watch - these are not activism. Consumerism is not activism. The only reason people think so is because real activism is being taken from us (protests, boycotts, picketing, striking, etc) because those actually work...

[(Anonymous)]

Consumerism is not activism.

That being said, making mindful choices in consumerism can still have benefits (such as keeping money more directly in your local community or showing that there is demand for different types of produce). Likewise, doing things like shopping in stores can help take pressure off already super stressed delivery workers. I learned that lesson pretty solidly after a holiday season as a mail carrier.

As for protests working, that can be a mixed bag. I've seen this locally, where an activist group was getting nowhere in a land dispute with the city when they were openly demonstrating and holding rallies. They made more headway when they decided to meet in person with state legislators to get state assistance with both putting pressure on the city and securing some financing to buy the disputed land. Moral of the story: YMMV quite a bit with protests.

[(Anonymous)]

That being said, making mindful choices in consumerism can still have benefits (such as keeping money more directly in your local community or showing that there is demand for different types of produce)

Yes, but it's not activism to shame people who buy things from amazon because that's what they can afford. Because of economies of scale and the rampant wage theft going on in the states in particular, I would wager to say most people can't afford to buy local for most if not all things. That doesn't mean that they're evil people for buying the things they need at prices they can afford. Hence, consumerism is not activism.

Moral of the story: YMMV quite a bit with protests.

Very true, but it will always work better than deciding that every person who likes a show you think is made by an evil person and then castigating them for being a bad person who likes things.

[(Anonymous)]

Something interesting and instructive about the Occupy protests is that part of the reason for them fizzling out is that the activists often refused to work with legislators, even when those legislators came to speak with them. They also, when asked, were unable to put forth a cogent set of demands. For many who were there, the protests existed to be protests, and not for much else.

A demonstration can be great for gaining the public's attention and riling up a base, but it has to be used in tandem with the more boring, pavement-pounding kind of politics. Something like, say, canvassing your community isn't as exciting as attending a protest (and it can be hard, miserable work), but it tends to have a lot more impact.

[(Anonymous)]

The only reason people think so is because real activism is being taken from us

Honestly, I think the reason people think so is because it's easy. Any self-righteous troll with a wifi connection and a keyboard can call themselves an activist when the definition of 'activism' is watching the right TV and judging people who don't. And people really, really, really like being able to call themselves activists.

[(Anonymous)]

Even most protests aren't real activism. They're events that people go to in order to tell themselves that they've "done something."

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, yes, let us consume only the purest media around, celestially crafted by the true angels who walk this Earth disguised as humans and who bear no stain upon their souls; let us savour that sweet, blessed ambrosia of being Morally Perfect with them, as God intended...

And die of starvation, as none of that exists.

Everyone has their issues. If you dislike any artist's creation for whatever reason, that's your right not to consume or engage with it or them. No one else has anything to do with that. But, likewise, no one's ideological credentials are tied to what they watch, listen to, read -- or don't.

Don't people get tired of purity, seriously? What is this, the Scarlet Letter? Sheesh.

[(Anonymous)]

This is one instance where consuming the product has no impact on how much wealth or influence the creator has. It’s fucking Julian Fellows fgs!

[(Anonymous)]

SA For anyone unaware, he was born into lifelong peerage. He’s a…baron now? I don’t pay attention. Basically he was born rich and influential and will die that way. The only difference between him and anyone else in his class is that he’s actually done some real work and had to do it on merit. (He wasn’t very successful with that though)

[(Anonymous)]

I'm reminded of the time I (unwisely, I know) got into it with someone who had convinced herself that a great way to combat homophobia was to relentlessly attack young women for writing slash fanfiction.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh god not the "yaoi is evil and homophobic because it fetishises gay people and women calling themselves fujoshi means they're homophobes"crowd. Some of them are actually convinced that fujoshi are more homophobic than regular old homophobes. Not to mention they usually ship slash ships as well but for some reason it's different when they do it lol.

[(Anonymous)]

I've watched / read much more aggressive Tory propaganda than Downton Abbey and it's fine. It's not going to change my mind about the Tories being bad. I just dislike that part, and like the other parts that I do like.

[(Anonymous)]

That it is more subtle than the in your face, and so gosh darned cute and reasonable, is what makes it the most dangerous and abusive. It is the sweet old uncle that wants you to come sit on his knee, and he'll tell you a special secret.

[(Anonymous)]

All that Tory Propaganda in The Gilded Age.

[meadowphoenix]

sometimes the secret are just anonymous polemics and honestly that's fun, but i've never felt it more keenly here.

if this is truly something you wouldn't say to people but is that much of a hard boundary, why? not saying this just makes it harder to find your people (and for other people to find theirs). seems like a waste of time not to be upfront.

[tabaqui]

Oh, you again.

[(Anonymous)]

Yup, that's how it works. I know I always go out and steal something after I watch a heist movie. And when I watched soaps, I totally drove off a cliff while crying after a dramatic argument with my fiancé where it was revealed he had slept with my heretofore unknown half-sister, got amnesia, got pregnant by a writer who turned out to be a spy (and the secret son of a woman scheming to wipe the town of the map by tsunami), and accidentally married his identical twin.

Yes, the things you watch can affect your perspective and even your behavior. But just because you enjoy watching something fictional, does not mean that you support its underpinnings that actually exist in real life.

[(Anonymous)]

lol +1

[(Anonymous)]

I do wonder what OP thinks of horror movies and people who love them. Are they secretly breeding a bunch of sadistic serial killers? Are all horror movie fans total perverts whose depravity knows no bounds? Huh.