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I was just talking about this yesterday! People keep saying "XYZ is the new Superwholock" but I don't think it's ever really true. It was a different time, and I don't think it's happening again. It was fun while it lasted!

At first I thought this secret was about how relieved the OP is that superwholock will never happen again. I'm certainly relieved! I hated that time, it felt like the apocalypse of fandom only giving a shit about garbage shows about boring white guys. I'm so glad it's over and the garbage shows about white guys are at least enjoyed in moderation and mixed in with other things. I certainly hope we never end up there again.

Superwholock wasn't particularly good or special but there's always something melancholy about any epoch passing into history and memory.

So what are the perfect, excellent shows and non-white paragon characters that you think other fans should have liked instead?

idk man is the point that there were simply no better shows back then, so garbage about white dudes is all we got (I feel bad calling DW garbage because early on I think it was good, but in the context of later parts of Moffat's run when superwholock became a thing, it was pretty bad)? If that's your point then it certainly doesn't make me any less relieved we live in a different time now. Like, even the MCU has more variation of lead characters than that superwholock graphic by the OP

Did you even watch the shows?
What made them "garbage" in your opinion?
How were the white guys "boring"?
I'm thinking back to Dean for example from Supernatural. He became more complex as the series went on, far from "boring". And Sherlock? A genius self confessed sociopath is "boring"? An alien who can travel through the universe is "boring"?
(Performative fandom is friggen annoying).

I'm sorry, but you sound just as annoying as the anon you're replying to.

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And Sherlock? A genius self confessed sociopath is "boring"?

Honestly, yes. There have been way too many asshole geniuses on TV for me to find his type at all interesting. Maaaybe I could've found Sherlock interesting if they'd actually done something substantive with the sociopathy element instead of having it be a throwaway line followed by four seasons of him being a garden variety asshole. But probably not even then.

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lol "performative" in an anon meme - who am I performing for and how will I receive my accolades???

anyway you sound like someone who shares the OP's opinions so I'm sorry for your loss and truly hope we never end up in the same nexus-of-white-dudes fandom conglomerate again (odds are you'll get your superwholock back in some form eventually because that's how systemic power structures work, so cheer up?)

That's a lot of white dudes.

Welcome to fandom lol

So? People like what they like. They aren't obligated to do their fandoming to please you.

I am attracted to white guys. Don't yuck my yum.

yeah it's television, what do you expect?

Actually, the Doctor is no longer a white guy, so... diversity win?

I very rarely ran into it, but the people in it seemed to be having a good time. But that's an organic thing, you can't jam several current shows together and force the energy.

Just last year we saw this with suits trying to find a way to force the next Barbenheimer when they whole point was the fans noticed the release dates were the same and just ran with it. People who don't understand fandom and just see it in terms of how they can make money out of it will never get it.

As for Superwholock...I wasn't bothered by it as I'm live and let live but I never watched Supernatural at all and I only briefly cared deeply about Sherlock. So it was pretty annoying having to scroll through a bunch of stuff to get to any kind of just Doctor Who content. I'm glad the most insane phase has ebbed.

It's wild that the suits couldn't figure it out, too, since Barbenheimer isn't even the first time it happened. Doom and Animal Crossing also had the same release date and fans did the same thing, years before Barbenheimer!

It's the cutesy/"girly" thing with the same release date as the darker/"masc" thing getting mashed up for funsies. It isn't hard to replicate if you know the pattern, but even if execs (or their marketing people) do see it, I can't see them not trying to also meddle in some way.

I agree. I was happy for the people having fun with it although I can understand how it would have been annoying for people who encountered it all the time.

The thing that a lot of people don't seem to get when they label something "the next SuperWhoLock" is that the crossover aspect was a major factor. It wasn't just three big shows--there were edits and fanvids and communities based on tying them together (source: was in one).

I think the only thing that came closest was Rise of the Brave Tangled Dragons (or whatever it ended up being called?) but even that was smaller.

I remember all the Jack Frost crossovers with other animated movies. Poor fans just din't have anyone to ship him with in his own movie.

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It was fun!

As someone who was there from the rise and fall of SuperWhoLock on Tumblr, the one thing I never understood was who Sherlock and DW was crossed over with Supernatural.
Like, I get it was largely because theses were the three shows that got 'big' around the same time - but at least it made sense with DW and Sherlock being on the same continent; but Supernatural had always seemed a little random in the mix.

With that all said - I'm the last person to criticize since I used to read variation of Glee crossovers with Supernatural and Doctor Who (for some reason, I was put off the idea of Sherlock being crossed-over with anything else).

"greatness" isn't how you spell "cringe"

Hard agree.

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