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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-02-28 07:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #6263 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6263 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 12:45 am (UTC)(link)

I think according to AO3's terms this is legitimately a bannable offence. Report them!

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
People don't use the report feature enough over there. I was in a fandom once where there was a trend tonuse ao3 like tumblr - posting fic searchs, 'plot bunnies', etc. I reported every one I came across with glee.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Plot bunnies are legitimate fanworks that AO3 hosts. If you search through the tag and go way back to the oldest ones posted, you’ll find a ton linked to the fic someone wrote based on the bunny.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Nope. Fic based on plot bunnies or plot bunny style fic are one thing but these were more along the lines of a list or prompts people were posting asking others to fill.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Prompt lists aren’t included but those are prompt lists, not plot bunnies. Plot bunnies are absolutely allowed from day one with a native tag and everything. I’ve posted multiple and also written off some.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, stop being such an anti. Let people make a living if they have to. If you start restricting people like that, you just know they'll take it as a first step into getting more stuff they don't like banned. You are either an anti, or an idiot who is happy to enable them.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Fuck off
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2024-02-29 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
AO3 doesn’t want to have to argue in court whether for-profit fics violate copyright. I can respect that.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
So you'd rather capitulate to the antis?

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
To keep fanfic freely available and "legal"? Yep!

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
+1000

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
This is a really weak argument you're trying to make.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
That's not what an anti is.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Ding dong you are wrong.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Fanfic runs on a gift economy and that's the way it goes.

I don't have a problem with someone linking their tumblr and saying "if you'd like to read my original fic and support my work, there's more information at this link about my books/patreon."

But selling cliffhangers goes against the very idea of what fanfic is supposed to be. Fanfic audiences are also often young/broke/disabled, but it is a hobby, and that's not what AO3 is for.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
100% this

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
An anti is a specific mindset of "you can't like this ship" or "you can't write fics with dark themes I don't like/handled in a way I don't like". Antis have a clear, puritanical/purity-focused bent to their behavior that seeks to get fandom spaces to conform to their preferences through group shaming and harassment.

It does not mean "criticized an anonymous person's behavior anonymously in a random forum they likely won't even see, once."

(Anonymous) 2024-02-29 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
This week, Logic Challenged Anon tackles the immortal question: are apples actually oranges?

I know what you're trying to do. You're trying to argue that the "slippery slope" of, "antis going after X content will lead to the banning of Y content" is fallacious. But you're overlooking a few things: first, there are, in fact, some real and documented "slippery slopes," and they often involve speech; second, there are arguments in favor of a laissez-faire attitude toward speech that don't involve the slippery slope at all; and third, the issue at hand is not speech, but monetization, which involves an entirely separate set of considerations. What counts as ethical when expression alone is on the table is not necessarily ethical when money is exchanging hands.