[ SECRET POST #6297 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6297 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

06. https://i.imgur.com/8trRyFr.jpg

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[(Anonymous)]

Fandom is more active now in trying to start boycotts (and failing) against Jews that don't need to ask permission to exist globally and can think for themselves (Debra Messing, Noah Schnapp, Jon Bernthal, et cetera) and harassing Jewish people online like posting watermelons and FREE PALESTINE comments on their IG profiles. It's a sad sight and a low point for fandom in general.

(frozen comment) Please keep traffic moving and do not stop to gawk.

[(Anonymous)]

*puts up construction barriers and flags* Sorry folks, we have a sewer leak. Please move around the comment. This area is closed.

(frozen comment) Re: Please keep traffic moving and do not stop to gawk.

[(Anonymous)]

Haha I appreciate you.

[(Anonymous)]

Are fandoms really like that now? I’m not in any for anything current so the idea of fans getting upset at a different take on a character is wild to me. All of my fandoms have long established fanon characterizations and tropes, but anyone posting a fresh take is wholly welcomed.

[(Anonymous)]

It's mostly like the frozen comment above.

[(Anonymous)]

It's weird, I haven't seen wank over a fic in a while! Wank seems to be over people's personal opinions instead which is far more unpleasant and dull.

[(Anonymous)]

Only wank I see is wank about perceived wank. I never actually see the wank people complain about. Kinda feel ripped off since I'm actively looking for it.

[(Anonymous)]

I can't find the fandom communities needed to precipitate the discussion and, therefore, the later wank, at all. What happened to all the fan-coms?

[(Anonymous)]

Discord happened.

[feotakahari]

Older Than Netfic on Tumblr collects a lot of secondhand wank reports.

[(Anonymous)]

Wank about fic is now perceived as rude, if not downright cruel. Fic is just for fun, it's a labor of love, it's all this work for free, it's amateur rather than professional, etc.

But people are people, so they've still gotta find some reason to wank, and "I don't like your opinions" can fairly easily be framed in terms of morality and righteousness.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

We could have some good old fashioned ship wars.

[(Anonymous)]

There are definitely fics/authors I'd complain about in private with a like-minded friend, in my current fandom, but... I'm not sorry if the days of wank comms are behind us. It's not the kind of drama I'd want to take out into the wider world.

Like, there's a writer who writes one of my favorite types of AU for one of my current OTPs... but the characterization is such that they DON'T feel like the characters I love at all. And sometimes I'll still give her work a read because there's just not enough out there, and sometimes I really regret trying. But I wouldn't want to put her on blast as a bad writer, because clearly there are people who DO like what she does with it and don't care about the characterization bc it's got the tropes they want. And I would hate for her to see me bashing her in a public space. I just vent with a friend who feels the same way in private messages.

[(Anonymous)]

Who cares if she were to see you bashing her? That's part of life, and part of putting yourself out there. She has to figure out how to deal with people not liking her. It's not your responsibility to shield her from it.

[(Anonymous)]

No, but being purposefully mean in a public space where the person you're being mean about could see it is... well, mean. And maybe it's just a little bit less mean to try and avoid that.

Like, why are you so opposed to the concept of showing just the tiniest hint of compassion to your fellow human beings?

[(Anonymous)]

Let's ignore the idea of a community for a moment. In a purely transactional sense, what benefit do you get from being mean about the author in public? She's not going to suddenly start writing what you prefer - more likely she's going to write less or at least not publish it where you can see it.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you ok?

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

I admit I'm really starting to not like this question online anymore. It reads more and more passive aggressive as time goes by.

[(Anonymous)]

It's supposed to be. It's meant to highlight in the simplest way possible that the commenter is being unhinged, without devoting more time than is worth it to an unhinged person on the internet.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

On the other hand, this intent hasn't been clearly communicated to mental health advocates. I think there needs to be some sort of agreement reached where pointing out unhinged behavior (which honestly should be done less frequently to avoid giving people undue attention) uses phrasing that is clearly separate from people actually wanting to provide support.

[(Anonymous)]

I care, actually. I care very deeply that someone who has never in her LIFE done anything to harm me and whose only 'crime' is writing fanfic with off characterization, does not lose her passion for writing or feel bad about herself because of me.

There is no end of people like you who are happy to 'teach people how to deal with not being liked'. She's an adult and I'm sure she's encountered many of them in her normal life-- if her experience growing up as the kind of person who gets so passionate about fandom that they have to write fic about it is anything like mine, she learned all about not being liked by the time she hit middle school. I am not interested in being unkind to her just because we have different feelings about characterization. I'm not 'shielding' her from the world.

Good god, but it is my responsibility how I treat other people! It is MY RESPONSIBILITY not to make the world a shittier place just because I can. I will die before I see someone having harmless fun and decide to hurt them just because I can. I can't imagine hating a stranger who has never done anything to me so much that I would hurt her for fun. Just because sometimes I think her fanfic is poorly written?

It's not my responsibility to protect her from other people who might feel the same way I do about her characterization but not the same way I do about basic fucking human decency, but it is CERTAINLY my responsibility to shield her from my own moments of bitchiness.

Genuinely, I hope you get to a place where you don't think it's cool to hurt people. Maybe you feel this way because people have hurt you, I hope they have not-- I don't think it would be any kind of a solution to hope people are mean to you for no good reason just because you're advocating meanness. I hope people treat you well and give you space to reconsider how you view thinking about other people's feelings.

[(Anonymous)]

"Maybe you feel this way because people have hurt you, I hope they have not"

Any particular reason you decided to trot out the "hurt people hurt people" trope?

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't trot out a trope, I acknowledged that an actual real life person might have been hurt in the past? Most of us have been to some degree or another??

[(Anonymous)]

It's not a trope, it's the truth. I know y'all don't like it because you think it's victim blaming to point out that abuse victims are likely to go on to become abusers themselves, but studies show that it's a real pattern.