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Its the fact that as soon as my close friends were gay, they decided they had to crossdress, and that they had to talk with a lisp, and had to wear makeup...

I just...don't understand why people have to change to advertise something they've discovered about themselves. =/

Maybe it's just their way of saying "Wow, I feel alone; let me try desperately to fit in with someone else because society has pounded it into my head that I am different and I am abnormal and people need to tolerate and accept things about me."

Maybe it is. Its quite possible, and that sort of thing really makes me depressed, because if someone has to change the way they are because they feel alone, then there's something wrong with the society. My friend had a close-knit group of friends who love and care for him like a brother; me included, and to suddenly have to change to fit in? It doesn't sit well with me. I mean, maybe its because I've never felt that drive be accepted by everyone else...but I guess it just doesn't make sense to me.

But that's just the thing. I don't know your friend personally so please don't think I'm trying to say I know him better than you at all, that would be retarded of me. But in many of these cases, people basically go through a belated adolescent identity-phase stage, because they had to repress that part of themselves for so long, and acting like that will make them fit in with people who are like 'them', because even though people who aren't like them love them, they still feel alienated and 'different', and that's society's fault. If that makes sense?

Yeah, it does make sense. I've never really enjoyed the idea of "acting out" against the "evil corporate drone-ish way that everyone wants you to be" or something...because it always seems to be in the exact same ways that people act out? I mean, Its just a need to fit with people who may not even like them, and alienating friends...people that would stay with them forever and always give them a shoulder to cry on that I don't get...I mean...its like lying to yourself in a whole other way... and that's what someone would want to get away from...right?

It really is, and it's a sad thing, but I don't hold it against people :\ you know? It's a lot harder for men, since being gay in so many other men's eyes demasculates you, so sometimes they have no choice but to just act more feminine to fit in with girls :\ and be desirable to men. And that only applies to explain SOME of them. Every person is a complicated individual case.

I will agree with that Statement. Every single person in this world is a unique and complicated case that confuses the bejeesus out of me.

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lol, drunken/serious posting ftw. Its the best for realz~

I can see that affecting alot of your development, and I completely feel you, I just can never understand why who you love or prefer in a partner has to suddenly affect one's personality and the way they act for the rest of their life... I mean, it may have to do with the fact that I'm straight, but I've had SO many comments of "you're too tolerant, you have to be bi" or "everyone's really bisexual" that I see the same thing from homosexuals trying to "turn" (for the lack of a better word, and it sounds so... mean ;-; ) people who are straight to "discovering" they're gay... I mean, isn't that something for them to decide?

(BTW, I don't think you're burning hell, of if you are, I'm gonna be right beside you, because I have a WallPaper of Zombie!Jesus for Easter Sunday. ._.)

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I never do think of that part, since My worldview is totally "EVERYONEISEQUALLOLZ"

...Don't tell me that! I'm a utopianist. :(

...I was actually trying to avoid saying anything on this subject, but you actually brought up something I really have to agree with you on.

I mean, it may have to do with the fact that I'm straight, but I've had SO many comments of "you're too tolerant, you have to be bi" or "everyone's really bisexual" that I see the same thing from homosexuals trying to "turn" (for the lack of a better word, and it sounds so... mean ;-; ) people who are straight to "discovering" they're gay... I mean, isn't that something for them to decide?

I remember when I was in highschool, almost every friend I had (except two) were trying to convince me that I just had to "find myself". It always bugged me because they were practically badgering me (not to say that all gays/bisexuals do, just these from my old school in particular). I finally just had to completely stop eating in public, participating in the activities I really loved doing, and just become almost completely anti-social to avoid them.

Granted, five years later, I have concluded that I'm bisexual, but that hasn't changed anything about me. I still act the same towards people as I always have, I still have the same beliefs I always have. I'm very happy with the person I am, all the faults and everything.

I really don't understand the "CONVERT, CONVERT, BE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE" culture that there seems to be...

I just...don't...understand it at all...

I don't, either. When my straight friends find out I'm bi they're all WTF you can't be bi, you don't act gay! and when my gay friends find out I'm bi, they're all you can't be bi, you don't act gay! and I'm like DDDD: why is everyone pressuring me to act gay!? WTF!!

Exactly!! Its so...peculiar!! Why does the way someone acts affect their sexuality? O_o

I have no idea. People are -weird-.

Word to that.

I don't either.

Not saying this specifically implies to the subject matter at hand, but just something I've always noticed:

If you're different, society either wants you to convert, or doesn't want you at all. Meh.

Yeah, and if you go to another cultural group, its the exact same thing! Its so weird!!!

People are just...guh. I can be as social as I want with people, but there's a point when I just get, "....Okay, you go stand on THAT SIDE of the world. I'll pretend I didn't just hear you say something like that."

Which..sadly, happens a lot. I hate living in the Bible belt. If it's not gays/bisexuals they're shooting eye-daggers at, it's the incredibly morbid people like myself. I can't even read Dracula in public because, apparently, it'll make me "weird" (even my own mother says I'm weird for it). Just .....GAH I HATE PEOPLE DX

Oh man, Bible Belt too? The worst part of America, I swear. Gorgeous scenery, but if I were to leave, I wouldn't be upset in the least.

I really do hate the way people are categorized...I mean...as a PoliSci major, I would love to read things like Mein Kampf and other famous works that would most likely get me put on some government list or something...not to mention the way that everyone I know would disown me and flay me alive or something grotesque like that...

I've always been interested in reading Mein Kampf but..yeah, I think you can understand why I haven't yet. >_>; I think if I moved anywhere, I'd want to move either up north, or further south in a different state. While I'm sure the north has their fair share of stereotypes that I really know nothing about, the south is just.. the epitome of rednecks/homophobes/etc. I'm not saying everyone down here is like that, but just all the people I see and meet aren't disproving that. I'll openly admit I do place people into stereotypes if I don't know them well. It's just the beauty of America that gives us the freedom to prejudge people as much as we want. That same freedom that lets us be mad at the ones who prejudge.

I'm sorry, I'm just so happy to actually be having an intelligent conversation about this with someone, my thoughts aren't even in the slightest coherent. |D

I guess what I'm trying to say is I've got no problem letting people do whatever the fuck they want, no matter what part of the country they're in.

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