ext_278733 ([identity profile] grayout.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-04-07 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #092 ]


⌈ Secret Post #092 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 61 secrets from Secret Submission Post #014.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Sunday, April 8th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: Here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] ew-younerd.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Disagreeing with an opinion doesn't mean you're not allowing the person to have their opinion. For example, I disagree with you that sex is gross on a personal level, but agree with you on a base-scientific level it's just exchanging of pheremones and fluids, so yeah. Not that pretty, but nothing to be ashamed of in my opinion.

" I agree in the way that I do like reading and/or writing a few select gay fandom pairings, but in real life I would not like to hear and/or watch any sort of gay sexual relations."

This isn't a poorly-based opinion, because you are not saying you hate gay people, you are saying you don't want to watch them fuck, which is not very abnormal of you or illogical of you at all. The OP's secret was poorly worded if this was what she/he meant, because to say "I hate gay people" Is a dumb opinion, end of story . An opinion is an opinion, it's not sacred and doesn't have to be respected if it's hateful, just as mine don't either.

[identity profile] chaoticchicken.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
I know it's not, but I'm not going to start a huge arguement because someone expressed a negative opinion about a group of people.

Though I think the OP's words were poorly represented, and unless they truly meant they're homophobic or that they wanted to cause wank, that it could have been written more clearly. I guess I'm trying to be all optimistic and numb towards it because I have family members who blantantly hate homosexuals and I've been dumbed against the opinion in the first place because I couldn't handle getting pissed off at them all the time.

But thank you for not chewing my head off. I was afraid to express any sort of opinion on the subject because it's quite easy to get misinterpreted, especially in the hetero/homo sort of conversations.

[identity profile] ew-younerd.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
I never learned anything by thinking I was right all of the time. My opinions are not ineffable things that just were bestowed immaculately upon me and are inherent to my character. I formed them through interaction, learning, and yes *GASP* being proved wrong! So I get a bit upset when people are so afraid to share their opinion and always have to state a disclaimer prior to it, saying that to each his own and all of that! Yes, live and let live is the best philosophy, and I'm not trying to control anyone's thoughts. The person can hate gays, it's over the internet, and in the end it doesn't effect me that much at all. But I will not deny that it's a retarded opinion to have.

Yours, on the other hand, has base. You just wouldn't want to witness actual homosexual sex, or much sex in general, which is logical. You're not writing off a bunch of people, it's just not your cup of tea. I wouldn't chew your head off for having a rational opinion, which is what you just displayed.

But disagreeing with the OP isn't chewing their head off. For one thing, they are cloaked in the secure veil of anonymity, so I cannot do anything personal to them or say anything personal about their character. However, they are saying something personal about gays and their characters by writing them off. You see the difference between a retarded opinion and a smart one like the on you had?

:) ♥ Maybe you're just sweet. I on the other hand like informing people when they are being an ass, just like I love being informed of it. If i use hateful language, I like when people tell me and say "Hey, you're offending an entire group of people with your words", because then I feel like a shit head and learn from the experience. People who go "It's okay if you hate this group of people! I mean I don't, but it's okay if you do!" won't get me to stop being a shithead.

You seem like a very nice person, though 8D so props to you for not being a jerk over the internet. It's a rare thing.

[identity profile] chaoticchicken.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, I'm sorry. Sometimes it's just too intimidating a subject to be straight about your opinion and I'm specially one that's usually too afraid to get involved in those "big conversations", usually being gay rights or abortion or whether Bush should be shot in the face or not. I always add the "PLZ BE NICE" lest some fanatic here or there decide I'm easy and fresh meat, or that my opinion is obviously wrong and thus void.

I'd like to agree but I always remain completely neutral on opinions, whether bigoted or not.

Thanks. X) I can completely understand that, really, but I'm a bit spineless so I stay away from commenting on other people's opinions rather than just stating my own.

HAHA, sadly. It's like the distance just gives people an excuse to be assholes.

[identity profile] devotingly.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
iawtc.

... all of them.

/too lazy to log out lolz

[identity profile] ew-younerd.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, fellow Paradisian :D

♥ AND CLOSET BERSERK FAN I HEAR? OR WAS THAT A RUMOR ? I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE I GOT THAT FROM

[identity profile] devotingly.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
YES, FELLOW BERSERK FAN. OMG. ;-; ♥ I heart the Berserk cast in Paradisa (which is probably the only place I've -seen- one. xD)

[identity profile] ew-younerd.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
That makes me wish I knew your OOC journal :( just so we could fangirl Berserk together

[identity profile] chaoticchicken.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
GOD, RP PEOPLE REPLYING.

I mean, hay guys. ♥ Paradisia's pretty popular, I hear?

[identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yus. And I'm the most sporadic poster EVAR. SDJFKDSJHF I'M IN TOO MANY GAMES WTF.

[identity profile] chaoticchicken.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
YOU ARE. I GUESS. JEEZ. >:[ You guys get a secret every week, wtf.

[identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Hahaha, I'm so glad like... practically no one knows me there. Then again, it's hard to keep up with such a big game. x_x;; *flops on you*

[identity profile] chaoticchicken.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Noes, I'm so weak. DX *wiggles*

I'm in a big game too, but I actually love the anonymity. X) Plus, you get to meet lots of people without having to worry about cliques or whatnot.

[identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
But you're so warrrrrm~ *snuggles*

And that's true. Perhaps thats the only reason I like it there, the large amount of interaction we can get with different characters. xD

[identity profile] chaoticchicken.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
And you're COLD. ;_; *tries to crawl away*

Right on! Plus, chats with upwards of 20 people are always entertaining. XD Or scenes, for that matter.

[identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
Uke are not allowed to complain! *squishes!* >)

... even in the crack, you can find gems. P.S - Friend wrote me a fic. THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED. xD

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3478357/1/

[identity profile] chaoticchicken.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
WAIT WHO SAID I WAS UKE. Except I'm too lazy to be anything else. *is squished* ;;

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. I LOVE THEM EVEN WHEN MARLUXIA'S PLOTTING HER DEMISE. 8D Tell your friend she wins my internets mutliple times. ♥

[identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
I SAY YOU'RE AN UKE, UKE. *loves on*

HEH HEH HEH, I KNOW RIGHT. I'll be fangirling her in tomorrow's LJ entry, show her support, 'cause we MaruNami fans are a rare breed! ;; And now I must run. DX SCHOOLWORK TO FINISH. ILU LOVIEEEE~

[identity profile] chaoticchicken.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
BUT. BUT. ;_; I DON'T WANNA.

EW, SCHOOL. AND I WILL, THANK YOU! ♥♥ ILU BB, HAVE FUN OR SOMETHING.

[identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
*waves* Hi-ho! ♥ xD When I fangirl Berserk, feel free to pounce in and squee with! x)

[identity profile] ew-younerd.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Happy birthday, btw!! ♥ i added you because I'm annoying

[identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Ack, thank you. xD;;;; *adds back* >:D MWAHAHAHAHA.

[identity profile] ew-younerd.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
You seem like a rational person, so I doubt any opinions you had, even if I disagreed with them, would be so shit-faced and black and white that I'd put them down. Let's say you like Bush and I don't, there's nothing wrong with that. But there is something wrong with saying "I hate people who like Bush", because that's just retarded, and I would be a retard to say that 8D;

And there's nothing wrong with what you do, babe. I just roll a different style B) *rides by in a uh..cool car or something to emphasize*

[personal profile] convault 2007-04-08 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
but isn't it okay to hate people who like Bush 'cause "I DON'T LIKE HIM AND THEY GOT HIM ELECTED" is a really good reason to dislike a group of people

[identity profile] longlongwaytogo.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. Not wanting to see people having sex, and hating the fact that they're having sex, or hating *them*, are different.