[ SECRET POST #6312 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6312 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[fscom]

05. https://i.imgur.com/9JQjI7s.png

[(Anonymous)]

no

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

lol same

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this is where we got 'you're fave is problematic' threads and blogs from and it was absolutely terrible. You would get people overanalysing literally everything just to find some kind of fault that a show/movie/celeb/writer had and it was 1. Stupid and 2. exhausting to deal with. (Never mind the blogs that conflated people who had done actual crimes with 'is kinda rude irl', like the utter lack of nuance was mind-boggling).

Your stance is the same as the former point you disagree with and where it came from, this is why parts of the internet think you must share the views of a villain you like or a show that's got morally dubious people in it, because of 'your fave is problematic'. I'll agree that toxic positivity is a thing and not helpful, but the response to it is not abashed negativity because that doesn't do anything good either.

You can recognise that something has flaws or faults without deeming it 'problematic' because regardless of what you think that word is synonymous with 'despicable' in current online culture, and frankly I have no time for either part of the 'you can't like bad things' 'acknowledge something you like has bad parts' online stances tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

eh

i think there's a difference between the attitude of "YOUR fave is problematic and let me randomly tell you, stranger, all about it" and the attitude of "MY fave is problematic, but thats ok because its a fictional character"

[(Anonymous)]

sa

like case in point telling the latter person "your fave is problematic" would have them just being like "yeah they are! they're also not a real person! nice chat w/e"

or "cool lets talk about it because Being Problematic is not the end of all discussion that you think it is, its also interesting *how* they are problematic or why they are compelling in spite of it"

[(Anonymous)]

'You not being able to acknowledge your fave is problematic is the problem, not the fact that your fave is in fact problematic. Like what you like, I don't care. But recognize how fucked up your fave is'

Literally the first paragraph of the secret, which is very 'let me tell you how bad your fave is, and you must listen to me' anon. It's not the OP talking about themselves, they're talking about others which is exactly the kind of behaviour that has led to fandom being how it currently is.

[(Anonymous)]

Tying one's media preferences to one's real life morals just makes me think the person is very immature. But to be fair, I'm only saying this because the last time I thought that liking good fictional people made a good person was when I was a literal child. Fortunately, I grew out of it... so there's hope for these folks as well!

[(Anonymous)]

It's fiction. I'm not obligated to acknowledge anything.

Just let other people do their fandom thing, and everyone will be a lot happier, including you. Trying to control what other fans do is obnoxious and annoying.

[(Anonymous)]

This is true.

[feotakahari]

I know my faves are problematic. I just don’t preface every single post about them with “this is problematic, BTW.”

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly.

[philstar22]

Yup. Many of my faves are straight up villains. Heck, some of them are basically pure evil and intended to be devil-figures. Yes, they are problematic. But they are also complicated and interesting. I love all sides of them, and I don't have to talk about the evil side every single conversation.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah.

That's requiring me to perform as a fan. And secondly, maybe your idea of problematic isn't the same as mine.

And to follow on to that point, many of the people that the internet claims are problematic are problematic to them just because they didn't do this. For example, expecting a Russian...IDK, musician, to decry the war on Ukraine when they're just some musician (who have family there!) and not the Russian government. Might be a left-field example, but you get me.

[feotakahari]

Yeah, I recently saw a Sami blogger raise a stink because Arknights has a character called Lappland, which apparently means it’s racist against the Sami. Arknights does have problematic characters who’re straight-up referred to as Sami, but Lappland isn’t one of them and the blogger clearly hadn’t done that much research.

[(Anonymous)]

Your first paragraph is in direct conflict with your second.

[(Anonymous)]

oh do shut up and take a nap