[ SECRET POST #6338 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6338 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Completely agree.

And at this point, I am just...so done with it. I want good things to sometimes happen to characters I like, and I don't want those good things to immediately be taken away from them.

[(Anonymous)]

A subversion these days is a light hearted Goldeneye style romp, because it ain't grimdark

[(Anonymous)]

I blame Game of Thrones.
I feel like I'm the only person who hated GOT from the beginning and now every friggen thing has to be dark and gritty.
I'm old enough to appreciate the lighter shows and movies from the 90s.

[(Anonymous)]

Movies and TV had been going down that route for a decade already though. The only thing GOT did differently was combine the War Grime Overlay, OTT Faux Realistic Violence, and Fan Favorite Deaths into a single production. Practically every HBO show had at least two of those elements. Oz, Sopranos, Band of Brothers, Deadwood, The Wire…that’s not even mentioning the other premium cable channels’ shows like Rome.

[(Anonymous)]

I blame Christopher Nolan for movies, and whatsisname who did 24.

[philstar22]

Yup. The best early dark and gritty stuff made a point with it and used it and made it interesting. Now everything is dark and gritty and yet the things that could make it work before are gone. It is just dark and awful for the sake of being dark and awful, and most of the characters are unlikable and miserable, and there is nothing hopeful or enjoyable about any of it.

There are people who like that kind of thing. But never been my thing.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure this is a secret as much as it is a truism.

[(Anonymous)]

I noped out of the dystopias and zombie apocalypses and "after the collapse" scenarios mostly because they seemed incredibly dull. But I love darkfic, and most of what they see fit to put on television is so tame compared to what people can write without gatekeeping. It's like, what they bill as "dark" for mass consumption is more like ... "urban depressive." Or perhaps existentially discouraging. It utterly lacks the depth, breadth, and grandeur I'm looking for.

[(Anonymous)]

I love the Sandman and first read it decades ago, but I'm so glad the show didn't try for darker and grittier than the comics because I would've had to nope out.

I've been lucky to not run into many fans who really missed the person turned into an eldritch slime monster and laminated over the walls, or the girl sneaking in to a morgue to fuck a corpse, or...

Anyway dark, gritty, edgy stuff mostly bores me and I know it's a cliche but if I want to despair for humanity I'll read the news.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. I do like comic Sandman and I enjoyed it's edginess as a young adult. But I am happy with a show and I don't find violence shocking or interesting

[ariakas]

As someone who does like the edgy stuff a lot of the time, even I agree that that has become the norm and could do with some introspection/commentary/subversion/deconstruction of its own at this point. As in, are things actually this bad, or are the characters bad people? Is it not a personal failing to not try for something better, rather than some "mature" inevitability? Isn't not only accepting the way things really are, but actively improving them for the future the ultimate form of maturity?

The only strong subversion of What's Supposed To Happen In An Edgy Show I can think of off the top of my head is The Mist (2007) film adaptation though.